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LCampbell
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Posted - 21/05/2015 :  02:44:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That cracked me up! This family never does anything the easy way. :)

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AntonH
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Posted - 21/05/2015 :  03:32:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well we are here to be helpful and at times we hope we can amuse. Back to work. Lars Larson In addition to the birth dates for the Lars Larson found by Jackie in his death record being spot on, he is listed as having immigrated to the US in 1880, which is date we found for the family traveling from Bergen to America.

My version of the 1910 Census posted by Jackie. Same immigration date of 1880 given in the 1920 Census.

Name: Lars Larson
[Hulda Larson]
[Lars Larsen]
Age in 1910: 38
Birth Year: abt 1872
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Odin, Watonwan, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1880
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Inga Larson
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Lars Larson 38
Inga Larson 31
Hulda Larson 5
Mabel Larson 3

Edited by - AntonH on 21/05/2015 03:33:35
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/05/2015 :  03:35:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

When I look at the original record I think it says that Lars is an illegimate child and that this is the first sexual experience for the couple. ie "lejermål fornication, sexual intercourse between unmarried persons" . If this Hans Larsen is the same as the Hans Larsen found in the 1865 Norwegian Census, should it not state that he was already married?




It does say "Enkemd." before Lars Hansen's name which is an abbreviation of enkemand or widower.
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/05/2015 :  03:37:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh thank you, I am glad. We hardly need any more uncertaintiy
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/05/2015 :  04:34:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is Kari Olsdatter's birth / baptism #L6:
Source information: Oppland county, Lom, Parish register (official) nr. 6A (1837-1863), Birth and baptism records 1849, page 112.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8915&idx_id=8915&uid=ny&idx_side=-114

She was born 9 Dec 1848 and was illegitimate, her parents' first indiscretion. Her father's farm name appears to be Rustedalen and her mother's farm name is Stamstad.

A probable half sister to Kari on her father's side named Marit L30:
Source information: Oppland county, Lom, Parish register (official) nr. 6A (1837-1863), Birth and baptism records 1849, page 114.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8915&idx_id=8915&uid=ny&idx_side=-116


I think not this one.

Here is Ole Erlendson Rep (a different farm so not sure) listed as a #2 illegitimate Anne, L130
Kildeinformasjon: Oppland fylke, Lom, Ministerialbok nr. 6A (1837-1863), Fødte og døpte 1851, side 150.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8915&idx_id=8915&uid=ny&idx_side=-152


But here is a 3rd for Ole Erlendson Rustedalen Hans #L127
Kildeinformasjon: Oppland fylke, Lom, Ministerialbok nr. 6A (1837-1863), Fødte og døpte 1853, side 172.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8915&idx_id=8915&uid=ny&idx_side=-174

There are 3 Ole Erlendson's in the baby business at about this time and 2 who each have fathered 3 illegitimate children by the end of 1853. Tough on the pastor and researcher to keep straight!

Edited by - jkmarler on 22/05/2015 17:30:08
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LCampbell
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Posted - 21/05/2015 :  15:18:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you all. I am going to compile everything you have sent and then look for questions and holes. I will post any information that comes from the records I ordered. Will be gone for a few days so will not be responding for a bit.

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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 21/05/2015 :  15:56:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a link, for those who are signed in to familysearch.org, for the death certificate of the Peter Larson who Jane found in Texas. He had lived in Sabine only 4 months, he was a retired bank guard, and died by burns over his whole body, manner not determined (accidental, suicide, homocide). An inquest was held over his death.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-25168-101747-51?cc=1983324

Here he is in the 1940 census in Minneapolis:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-27786-20931-13?cc=2000219

Possible marriage for Peter & Hilda from MOMS:
HENNEPIN 03470403 10/18/1930 LARSON, PETER ENGBY, HILDA

Edited by - jkmarler on 21/05/2015 18:56:39
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 21/05/2015 :  18:39:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From an earlier Nancy post.

quote:
His address was listed as 2930 Freemont Ave. S


Peter Larson and wife Hilda lived in over 10 different places in both south Minneapolis and Saint Paul. This one looks to be the closest to the 2930 Fremont Ave S. address. Also the occupation of Guard seems to match the one in the 1940 Census that Jackie posted. He is listed as a guard at the N. W. National Bank Bldg.

Peter Larson in the U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989
Name: Peter Larson
Gender: Male
Residence Year: 1932
Street address: 2920 Fremont av S
Residence Place: Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
Occupation: Guard
Spouse: Hilda Larson
Publication Title: Minneapolis, Minnesota, City Directory, 1932

This one from 1940 matches of course the address shown in the 1940 Census.

Name: Peter Larson
Gender: Male
Residence Year: 1940
Street address: 3248 17th av S
Residence Place: Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
Occupation: Floorman
Spouse: Hilda C Larson
Publication Title: Minneapolis, Minnesota, City Directory, 1940



Edited by - AntonH on 21/05/2015 18:40:36
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/05/2015 :  18:53:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Engby the name Hilda was wearing when she married Peter is somewhat of a contraction of Engebo which was the name of her first husband Edward Engebo. The Engebos had at least 3 daughters. Hilda's maiden name was Anderson.

Edited by - jkmarler on 21/05/2015 18:54:25
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LCampbell
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Posted - 21/05/2015 :  20:25:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is another strange piece.
WWI registration Peter Larson Billings Montana
DOB 8/28/1975
Occupation farmer-Employer Frank Petersen
Nearest Relative: Odin, MN Louis Larson (brother)
Date on Card is 9/12/1918

So, IF this is our Peter (same birth date and brother in Odin) Who is this brother Louis???

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JaneC
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Posted - 21/05/2015 :  21:16:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Remember when Lars Hansen and Kari lived in Norway, they had a son Lars (born before they wed). Lars equals Louis in the USA.
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LCampbell
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Posted - 21/05/2015 :  21:23:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ah! I wondered which name translated to Louis. Thanks.

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LCampbell
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Posted - 21/05/2015 :  22:49:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lyndal40- I just read over your post on Peter and the 1932 directory address. Voila! I enlarged the address on the death certificate to see it better. It does say 2920 Fremont Ave. S. that post is from 1932 and he signed Sigurds death certificate in 1933 with that same address. So this is a definite link. I can now get all the other U.S. information on Peter. I don't know how to go in and make the correction to the original post.

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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/05/2015 :  23:03:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/05/2015 :  00:03:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A possibility for Kari Olsdatter in the 1865 Norwegian Census. She is living at a farm named Stamstad. Nord. Similar to the name she used in the baptism record for her first child Lars.

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0514&kenr=003&bnr=0015&lnr=00

Baptism record posted earlier for Lars

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6072&idx_id=6072&uid=ny&idx_side=-53

Edited by - AntonH on 22/05/2015 00:04:05
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