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Kenneth Lie
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 Posted - 17/01/2016 : 14:34:18
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Im "hunting" for clues in the puzzle of my great grandfather. I am researching for a book I am writing to my two grandmothers. My grandfathers are both dead, I miss them deeply both, and I am dedicating the book to them.
My grandmother on my mother's side didnt know her father that well, she was born only a month before she was born, and he returned about 1932/1933. He died in a tragic motorcycle accident in Norway 1946.
I am hoping to find some more clues on him over there, so I can give my grandmother a chance to get to know her father a bit better before her days are over.
Here is the informartion that I have:
NAME:
Peder Ingvald Johansen Løtoft (Lotoft)
Born: November 23rd 1901 in Sokndal, Hauge i Dalane, Rogaland, NORWAY
Married to Anne Marie Frøytlog
HIS TRAVEL:
- Boarded a ship in Stavanger, Norway june 10th 1929 heading for Newcastle.
## I dont know what ship, or when he arrived. Did he take the train afterwords?
- Boarded Cunard Line's "Ausonia (2)" June 14th 1929
## I need a high res. picture of the passenger list
- Arrived in Quebec as landed immgrant June 22nd 1929.
- Took the C.N.R train to Winnipeg, Manitoba
- Found farmwork
## I dont know where he lived or worked. I have some photos developed in Melfort and Regina.
- He worked on a horse farm/ranch or something. After he got back home, a couple of years later,he got a letter telling him that the horses had kicked to death the owner of the ranch he lived on.
- He worked with a Norwegian man born in Kananda
- He went back home around 1932/1933, I have NO documentaion of this.
- On a photo there is a car, how many cars in Canada 1929?
Any clues on him would be great!
Hope you can help ,)
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 17/01/2016 : 15:10:12
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To start, here is Peter Ingvald in Sokndal in 1910 census:
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A family tree online - obviously the tree has wrong birth year for Johan Pedersen Løtoft and may have other errors - the tree creator might be a family member/contact for you
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Edited by - JaneC on 17/01/2016 15:31:07 |
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Kenneth Lie
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Norway
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Posted - 17/01/2016 : 15:26:34
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quote:
Originally posted by JaneC
To start, here is Peter Ingvald in Sokndal in 1910 census:
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A family tree online - obviously the tree has wrong birth year for Johan Pedersen
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 17/01/2016 : 15:28:02
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Hi Kenneth, there's a blank white screen at bottom of discussions to you to write in. Note the icons atop your posts. Click trash can to delete a post.
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Edited by - JaneC on 17/01/2016 15:29:56 |
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Kenneth Lie
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Norway
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Posted - 17/01/2016 : 15:30:47
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Sorry for that! Had to go back one page for username and password and mhy text input was gone before i noticed it ;)
I have what I need of him concerning records in Norway and so on. The things I am after is his return to Norway, his travel here, and signs of him in Canada.
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 17/01/2016 : 16:25:15
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Ok, so one piece of the puzzle is, what ship did he board for this trip:
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A first research step is to establish that initial, unsourced assertions are correct, and to build a fuller picture of the starting point - so hold tight, you may find records posted that you already have, but that is not the point of posting them.
His return to Norway will not be noted departing Canada, as far as I know, but the UK kept outbound passenger records. Maybe the outbound passengers database at Ancestry.com will turn him up.
Parish priests traditionally registered names of people leaving the parish and moving into it. A sign of him returning might be found that way.
Are you saying you know where he lived and died in Norway? If he lived elsewhere than Sokndal, he will be hard to find in Norway after his return.
Sometimes after immigrants return they live near family. If you are unsure of Peter Ingvald's whereabouts in Norway after his return, he might be near family and their names and locations should be posted.
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Kenneth Lie
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Norway
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Posted - 17/01/2016 : 16:42:45
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Hi
And thank you again, it doesnt matter if people post things I have found, you never know ;)
I have also found that one with his name spelled wrong "SØrtoft" :)
But, I am going to the local city archives this week to see if they may have some documentation on passports and outbound passengers. Unfortunatly there was a fire in Stavanger city archives in 1929 the year he travelled, so the records are reconstructed, and may be fault.
But im looking forward to going there to see if i can find a new, if just a small piece of the puzzle.
I am drawing a map on his movements on confirmed data that I have so I "get the picture" .
I also have people looking in achives in Candada, but nothing so far. This week I am also putting an ad in a Regina newspaper to see if someone out there may help. For last I am hoping that there may be a record of him in the Canadian 1931 cencus, but Its not certain that I am allowed to access this. (excuse my grammar, Its been a while since school hehe)
So I think Im really trying everything there is.
Sincerly,
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Kenneth Lie
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Norway
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Posted - 17/01/2016 : 16:48:01
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Hi again :)
He died in a motorcycle accident in Telemark 1946 on his way home. He is buried in Sokndal.
The church record doesn't have anything of him moving out or in from that time.
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 17/01/2016 : 16:51:44
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| Very interesting! We have company soon so I'll leave you now, to others who will help... |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 17/01/2016 : 17:19:51
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| Melfort is about 174 miles north of Regina, Saskatchewan. Do you have the envelopes to match the letters? Who sent the letters? |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 17/01/2016 : 17:32:08
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Here is how Ancestry.com has transcribed him in their Immigration Records. On the original manifest he lists his destination as C.N.R. Winnipeg, Man. Looking a little further I see that you have a Ancestry.com Family Tree for him. Have you searched Ancestry.com for him. It looks like you have also accessed the record on his UK Outward Passenger file.
Peder I Lotoft J
in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Peder I Lotoft J
Gender: Male
Age: 27
Birth Year: abt 1902
Birth Country: Norway
Date of Arrival: 22 Jun 1929
Vessel: Ausonia
Search Ship Database: Search for the Ausonia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Canada
Port of Departure: Southampton, England |
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Kenneth Lie
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Norway
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Posted - 17/01/2016 : 17:36:11
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jkmarler:
No I do not have any envelopes, and I dont know who actual sent the letters. I presume him? The hints I have to Regina and Melfort is the stamps on the back. He doesnt say in any of them where he lives or work. And far as I know, there is no letteres left of him. His only son, died last year and took what he knew to the grave, before I started with this. And my grandmother doesnt know anything particular.
lyndal40:
Thank you :) I have this but every find is a find ;) |
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Kenneth Lie
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 17/01/2016 : 18:51:30
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Interesting picture everybody posing on the threshing machine.
Here is a link to Nos Racines / Our Roots This site has a full text search in many, many published community and provincial histories. It might be worth a look:
http://www.ourroots.ca/
Did your great grandfather have any other relatives in US or Canada who might have known about him, such as aunts, uncles, cousins?
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Kenneth Lie
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Norway
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Posted - 17/01/2016 : 19:00:52
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yes it sure is ;) i'll check out the link ,)
he didnt have any relatives that I am aware of, or have found out(is know, but; he is holding a baby in some of the photos, he may have had a child over there even tough he was married back home, but that is just a guess.
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Kenneth Lie
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Norway
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Posted - 17/01/2016 : 19:03:49
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What do you think about the ranch owner got kicked to death by his own horses? Is that a thing that would be in the newspapers or in an archive somewhere?
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Hunting for an ancestor. Pieces of the puzzle
