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phyllisrowland
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USA
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 Posted - 29/02/2016 : 06:59:59
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I'm researching my dad's family from Lillesands. I've found his grandfather Ole Jacob Rosenvold (age 10) and family in the 1865 census for Vestre/Moland. On other sites, I've found records indicating he emigrated and settled in Brooklyn in 1881. But I can find nothing about how he got there. I also have a copy of a "Sofartsbog" with 9th Mars 1856....is this date of birth? christening? Any guidance/assistance would be great. I'd love to find out more about Ole J's parents too. Also, I'm thinking about traveling to Norway in June. Will I be able to do any/much research in Lillesands and Grimstad?
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Geir Dybvig
Medium member
Norway
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Posted - 29/02/2016 : 08:15:27
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March 9- 1856 is date of birth. April 6 is date christening.
Here he is nr. 30.
Kildeinformasjon: Aust-Agder fylke, Vestre Moland, Klokkerbok nr. B 3 (1851-1861), Fødte og døpte 1856, side 48.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=845&idx_id=845&uid=ny&idx_side=-52
His parents married, nr3:
Kildeinformasjon: Aust-Agder fylke, Vestre Moland i Vestre Moland, Klokkerbok nr. B 1 (1816-1851), Ekteviede 1842, side 205.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9613&idx_id=9613&uid=ny&idx_side=-206
His father Ole Siheldrup christ. in Stavern , December 4, right side:
Kildeinformasjon: Vestfold fylke, Stavern, Ministerialbok nr. 4 (1809-1816), Fødte og døpte 1814, side 70-71.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8257&idx_id=8257&uid=ny&idx_side=-37 |
Edited by - Geir Dybvig on 29/02/2016 08:46:38 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 29/02/2016 : 11:03:56
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Originally posted by phyllisrowland
Also, I'm thinking about traveling to Norway in June. Will I be able to do any/much research in Lillesands and Grimstad?
Thanks for any help!
What kind of research are you planning to do, or would like to do? |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 29/02/2016 : 14:10:35
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Ole Jacob, his parents and siblings in 1865.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 29/02/2016 : 18:10:38
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There is a very detailed Family Tree on Ancestry.com on your family. For you it begins here.
Ole Jacob Rosenwald
1856–1895
BIRTH 9 MAR 1856 • Norway
DEATH 27 DEC 1895 • Kings, New York, USA
Father is listed as
Ole Schjelderup Rosenvold
1814–
BIRTH 25 SEP 1814 • Stavern, Vestfold, Norway,
As Geir as given you the link to the fathers baptism record you might note that the father was born in Stavern, Vestfold County, which is a litlle distance from Vestre Moland, Aust-Agder County. You can find Stavern here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stavern
Although Ole was from Vestfold, he was married in Vestre Moland, Aust-Agder.
Ole Schjelderup Rosenvold
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Ole Schjelderup Rosenvold
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 18 feb 1842
Marriage Place: Vestre Moland,Aust-Agder,Norway
Spouse: Johanne Margrethe Olsdr
FHL Film Number: 123700
The original record is found at this link. See number 3 top of the right hand page. Yes it is very difficult to read.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9615&idx_id=9615&uid=ny&idx_side=-166
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 29/02/2016 : 19:30:41
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Wonder what's going on with this search...
In the Old Fulton newspaper site there is an obituary of a Rosenvold who died in 1959. He came from Grimstad, was a carpenter and was survived by a wife Olga and a daughter named Ruth and a brother still in Norway named Jens.
http://fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 29/02/2016 : 22:11:07
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Well there is a John Rosenvold and his wife Olga living in New York. He is listed as a carpenter. Where he fits in with OP's family remains to be seen.
John Rosenvold
in the 1920 United States Federal Census
Name: John Rosenvold
Age: 30
Birth Year: abt 1890
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1920: Brooklyn Assembly District 9, Kings, New York
Street: Fifty Fifth Street
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1906
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Olga Rosenvold
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Native Tongue: Norwegian
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Carpenter
Industry: Ship
Employment Field: Wage or Salary
Naturalization Status: Alien
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Rosenvold 30
Olga Rosenvold 27
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 29/02/2016 : 22:14:53
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P:robably your John Rosenvold arrival. He is from Grimstad and is going to his brother Jens Rosenvold, Hoboken New Jersey.
Johan Rosenvold
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Johan Rosenvold
Arrival Date: 6 Feb 1907
Birth Date: abt 1890
Birth Location Other: grsnistad
Age: 17
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Christiania
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Oscar II
This is probably his baptism record. See number 53.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=983&idx_id=983&uid=ny&idx_side=-93
I have not seen any relationship between this famiy and that of the OP's however I notice that in the 1865 Census a Jens Rosenvold born in 1817 was born in Stævern. Same as Stavern?
Probably this family n the 1865 Census.
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0905&kenr=0093&bnr=0093&lnr=000 |
Edited by - AntonH on 29/02/2016 23:09:36 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 29/02/2016 : 23:29:04
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John Rosenvold going to his brother Jens Christian Rosenvold who is the brother of Ole Schelderup Rosvold.
Parents Vilhelm Rosenvold and Maren Dorothea Berug.
Ole Schelderup born 25 sept 1814, see Dec 4.
Jens Christian born June 22 1817, confirmed 1832, see #13.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 29/02/2016 : 23:35:10
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Well Jackie you may have hit upon a family connection here. In the Ancestry.com Family Tree the father of Ole Schjederup Rosenvold born 1814 in Stavern, Vestfold, his father is listed as Vilhelm Olsen Rosenvold. In this tree Vilhelm is married to Maren Dorthea Jensdatter Berug and they have four children Ingerine, Ole, Inger and Marthinus. No Jens.
In this Family Tree from Geni.com there is a Vilhelm Rosenvold, no wife and one son Jens Kristian Rosenvold born 1817 in Stavern, Larvik, Vestfold. The links provided lead to an 1875 Census for same Jens as my link to the 1865 Census above.
http://www.geni.com/people/Jens-Kristian-Rosenvold/6000000033950293642?through=6000000033951308547
Hard to imagine that there is not some connecton between these families.
Well while I was researching Einar stepped in and proved the relationship. Einar would you check your link for Dec 4, I did not go where I think you want us to go. Went to Vestre Moland 1826 |
Edited by - AntonH on 29/02/2016 23:51:31 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 29/02/2016 : 23:56:31
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Still looking for how Ole Jacob Rosenwald travelled to America. Here he is listed as arriving in Oct of 1881. That is quite a few months from the departure found by Hopkins above. However there are no other candidates from the emmigration records for Krisitansund that fit better.
Ole J Rosenwald
in the New York, Index to Petitions for Naturalization filed in New York City, 1792-1989
Name: Ole J Rosenwald
Naturalization Date: 26 Oct 1892
Former Nationality: Norwegian
Arrival Date: Oct 1881
Title and Location of Court: Common Pleas Court, New York County
Volume: 729
Record Number: 85 |
Edited by - AntonH on 01/03/2016 00:09:28 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 01/03/2016 : 00:07:58
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quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40
Well Jackie you may have hit upon a family connection here. In the Ancestry.com Family Tree the father of Ole Schjederup Rosenvold born 1814 in Stavern, Vestfold, his father is listed as Vilhelm Olsen Rosenvold. In this tree Vilhelm is married to Maren Dorthea Jensdatter Berug and they have four children Ingerine, Ole, Inger and Marthinus. No Jens.
In this Family Tree from Geni.com there is a Vilhelm Rosenvold, no wife and one son Jens Kristian Rosenvold born 1817 in Stavern, Larvik, Vestfold. The links provided lead to an 1875 Census for same Jens as my link to the 1865 Census above.
http://www.geni.com/people/Jens-Kristian-Rosenvold/6000000033950293642?through=6000000033951308547
Hard to imagine that there is not some connecton between these families.
Well while I was researching Einar stepped in and proved the relationship. Einar would you check your link for Dec 4, I did not go where I think you want us to go. Went to Vestre Moland 1826
Close but not a cigar yet. The Johan who died in NY in 1959 was aged 69. So here is who I think he is:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01037200001265 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 01/03/2016 : 00:14:25
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Yes, I guess I did not make the connection clear. Father of Johan and Jens was Reinert Rosenvald b 1848 and his father was Jens Kristian Rosenvald b 1817 and his father was Vilhelm Rosenvald who also had a son Ole Schjelderup Rosenvald b 1814 who had a son Ole Jacob Rosenvald b 1856 who is the OP's great grandfather.
According to the Ancestry Family Tree Ole Schjelderup Rosenvald had at least ten children born from 1842 to 1865, inclucing Ole Jacob born 1856. |
Edited by - AntonH on 01/03/2016 00:37:58 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 01/03/2016 : 00:41:56
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Here is the marriage record for Ole Jacob Rosenvald from New York.
Ole Jackob Roswold
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1875-1940
Name: Ole Jackob Roswold
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Date: 9 Mar 1856
Marriage Date: 31 Dec 1889
Marriage Place: Brooklyn, New York
Spouse: Antonie Margrethe Berndsen
Father: AL S Roswold
Mother: Johanne Mary Olsen
Church Name: Our Saviour's Lutheran
Church Location: Brooklyn, New York
Father is listed as Ole S Rosemold sp? mother is Johanne Marg. Olsen. From the original record. |
Edited by - AntonH on 01/03/2016 00:45:03 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 01/03/2016 : 01:09:41
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Reinert Martinius Rosenvold, born Dec 25 1848, see #5, parents Jens Christian Rosenvold (b. 1817) and Elen Marie Rasmusdatter, married Febr 26 1846, see #4.
Ole Schelderup Rosenvold born 25 sept 1814 and Jens Christian Rosenvold born June 22 1817 are brothers with parents Vilhelm Olsen Rosenvold and Maren Dorothea Jensdatter Berug.
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