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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 01/03/2016 :  01:59:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One piece of advice the late Gerhard Naeseth, authority on Norwegian American research, had for Norwegian research. Do your research here in US, the records are just as accessible and then save your Norway time for actually enjoying Norway.
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 01/03/2016 :  04:15:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Finding the arrival of Ole Jacob Rosenwald has been a struggle. Sometimes it helps to try and find a person very near to the person you are seeking in the emmigration lists from Digitalarkvet. Using the emmigration list posted by Hopkins earlier on the departure of Ole Jacob Olsen, I looked for Hans Tallaksen. That seemed to be a name that might be easily transcribed upon his arrival. I think that this is his arrival into New York. The arrival date of May 19th would be fairly close to what one expect for a trip from Norway through England to New York. Also his birth year is correct at 1849. He is listed as Swedish, but everyone not labelled either English or Irish on this ship is labelled Swedish so that probably covers the Norwegians as well.

H Tallakson
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: H Tallakson
Arrival Date: 19 May 1881
Birth Date: abt 1849
Age: 32
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Swedish
Place of Origin: Sweden
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Nevada

The ship Nevada carried about 1700 people, but I narrowed it down to those born in 1856 plus or minus two. Also it should be noted that the original manifest is in very poor condition and one can understand how the name could be unreadable or difficult to read. In any case the best guess I have is this person. Looking at the original manifest I would interpret the name to be Ole J Rosenvold. But it is somewhat of a conjecture.

Oli J Roshuhan
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Oli J Roshuhan
Arrival Date: 19 May 1881
Birth Date: abt 1855
Age: 26
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Swedish
Place of Origin: Sweden
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Nevada

It is true that Ole lsted Oct 1881 as his arrival date on at least one record, however the time between May and October is very long for a voyage time and could be incorrect.



Edited by - AntonH on 01/03/2016 04:41:39
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phyllisrowland
New on board

USA
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Posted - 01/03/2016 :  04:30:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh my, so much information to digest! Thank you - tusen tak - everyone! I have found various documents on Ole Jacob Rosenwald (Americanized spelling) in the states (Brooklyn, Kings). I also saw the misspelling of Rosenvold to Rosemold and the various spellings of the Berulsen/on side. I'll read through all of this this week.

As to travel for research - well, I was thinking if there were church or city/town records to view live and in person that might be kinda cool. But it does seem like so much has been digitized. And Norway is so expensive; I may be able to accomplish what I want to do from home.

Question - My dad says Ole Jacob was a seaman. Are there any records confirming this?

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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 01/03/2016 :  04:33:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In the emmigration record posted by Hopkins on page one he is listed as sømand which translates as sailor.

Also others in his family carry the same name, for example in the 1865 Census posted on page one, his brother Vilhelm is also listed as Sømand ie Sailor.

Edited by - AntonH on 01/03/2016 04:37:57
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jwiborg
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Norway
4961 Posts

Posted - 01/03/2016 :  18:38:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by phyllisrowland

As to travel for research - well, I was thinking if there were church or city/town records to view live and in person that might be kinda cool. But it does seem like so much has been digitized. And Norway is so expensive; I may be able to accomplish what I want to do from home.
Grimstad and Lillesand won't have any city/town records for you to view live. The only option for records in those cities would be the local library, who have local farm history books and possibly a microfilm viewer to view churchbooks. But all available churchbooks are also available online.

Statsarkivet in Kristiansand have the original records from Lillesand and Grimstad, and they might have interesting records for you, like probate registers etc, which might not be online yet.

However; the main reason to visit Lillesand/Grimstad (except of being the best place to be in Norway during summer ) should be to visit distant relatives or to see where your ancestor came from.
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Kåarto
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Norway
5861 Posts

Posted - 01/03/2016 :  23:38:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Seafarer-register for Rosenvold link and a translater

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 01/03/2016 23:44:23
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