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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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 Posted - 28/03/2016 : 21:58:16
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NAME: Randi Kjersten
GENDER: Female
AGE: 30
BIRTH YEAR: 1839
DATE OF ARRIVAL: Jun 1869
VESSEL: Valkyrien
PORT OF ARRIVAL: Canada |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 28/03/2016 : 22:11:21
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Mange takk!
Well, unless the Hamres were in the habit of buying up other people's antiques, I'd guess that the trunk belongs to Harry Hamre's great grandmother Rangdi Gudbrandsdatter / Gulbrandsdatter. I wonder if the family knows?
Valkyrien voyage in 1869:
http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_ship.asp?sh=valky |
Edited by - jkmarler on 28/03/2016 22:14:26 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 28/03/2016 : 22:35:06
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Good work, but I'm having a hard time connecting her to any special family event from 1866...?  |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 28/03/2016 : 23:26:32
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| It didn't have to be a special event. Trunks that came over were "expendable" in Norway since the newest fashion was for "chests of drawers". I thought that it was possibly was made or painted in anticipation of the move to America... |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 28/03/2016 : 23:39:43
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quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler
It didn't have to be a special event. Trunks that came over were "expendable" in Norway since the newest fashion was for "chests of drawers". I thought that it was possibly was made or painted in anticipation of the move to America...
I do not agree on that. Writing a name and a year on a trunk like that; the year has to be connected to a special event for that person, most likely the birth/christening. Confirmation is less likely, and marriage is not likely. Preparation for emigration, or emigration is unlikely.
That is my thoughts... |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 29/03/2016 : 00:38:02
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Perhaps a gift on the 10 year anniversary of their marriage?
And never say never, as you yourself have said, there is not a rule that is not meant to be broken!
#67 Jorund
Source information: Oppland county, Vang, Parish register (official) nr. 6 (1846-1864), Birth and baptism records 1857, page 50.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8999&idx_id=8999&uid=ny&idx_side=-53
The marriage # 9 is celebrated in 1857 so another great theory bites the dust.
Source information: Oppland county, Vang, Parish register (official) nr. 6 (1846-1864), Marriage records 1857, page 134.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8999&idx_id=8999&uid=ny&idx_side=-138
The move to vestre Slidre #86-#89 on left page:
Source information: Oppland county, Vang, Parish register (official) nr. 6 (1846-1864), Emigration records 1854-1864, page 200.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8999&idx_id=8999&uid=ny&idx_side=-200
Tosten Tostenson Kiersteen #4
Source information: Oppland county, Vang, Parish register copy nr. 2 (1814-1889), Birth and baptism records 1822, page 56.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9397&idx_id=9397&uid=ny&idx_side=-56
Randi Gulbrandsdatter Elton #55
Source information: Oppland county, Vang, Parish register (official) nr. 5 (1831-1845), Birth and baptism records 1834, page 10.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8998&idx_id=8998&uid=ny&idx_side=-13
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 29/03/2016 : 21:12:50
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I found a bigger image of the trunk. (Click to enlarge)
Interesting, that below the year 1866 is written "Quil", which is the name of the school / census district, for the above mentioned Rangdi... 
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Edited by - jwiborg on 29/03/2016 21:51:46 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 29/03/2016 : 22:03:27
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How many parishes would have made up Qvil in 1866? There are no Rangdi let alone Rangdi Gulbrandsdatter born in 1866 in Vestre Slidre.
Curiouser and curiouser. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 29/03/2016 : 22:59:00
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Tosten and Randi had an child in 1866, not named in this Ancestry.com record.
Tostensen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Tostensen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 11 mar 1866
Baptism Place: Vestre Slidre, Oppland, Norway
Death Date: 11 mar 1866
Father: Tosten Tostensen
Mother: Randi Gulbrandsdatter
FHL Film Number: 1282584
Reference ID: B1 p211 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 29/03/2016 : 23:02:28
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O ho! A "push" gift in 1866?
I wasn't able to find the boy b in 1866 perhaps he is named Ole since there is an Ole Kjersten in the arrivals database at Ancestry. But here is Ingeborg # :
Source information: Oppland county, Vestre Slidre, Parish register (official) nr. 3 (1865-1880), Birth and baptism records 1868, page 30.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6133&idx_id=6133&uid=ny&idx_side=-29
Interesting that the Don Carlson database doesn't have any children except the first three.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 30/03/2016 : 02:01:27
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| I am not sure I understand your comment about Ole. Jackie. according to the Ancestry.com record the baby died the same day as he was born. Perhaps he was never named. I also could not find an entry in Digtalarkivet, however Ancestry.com must have transcribed it from somewhere. |
Edited by - AntonH on 30/03/2016 02:04:11 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 30/03/2016 : 04:37:31
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The FHL number shows it was from an LDS microfilm showing it as page 2 hundred something. Perhaps there were two sets of books and only one has been posted on the Digitalarkivet?
In the Ancestry Canadian passenger lists database had in index these Kjerstens: Tosten as Joster, Randi, Gjorund, Kari, Anne, an Ole and an Ingeborg I asked abut previously. I wonder if Ole and Ingeborg belong to the family? |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 30/03/2016 : 05:18:59
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I went back and looked at the original manifest for the Kjersten arrival. It reads
Tosten Tostensen Kjersten
Kone Randi
Born
Gjorand
Kari
Anna
Ingeborg
Also on the ship are Gertrude Iversdatter Kjersted and her son Ole age 3
Name: Gertrude Iversdatter Kjersten
Gender: Female
Age: 23
Birth Year: abt 1846
Date of Arrival: Jun 1869
Vessel: Valkyrien
Search Ship Database: Search for the Valkyrien in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Canada
Sorry, I probably should have taken a look earlier, it might have saved some confusion.
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Edited by - AntonH on 30/03/2016 05:24:02 |
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Chest that bears name and date
