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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 28/10/2017 : 02:52:11
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It is likely Tolgen, a parish located in Hedmark County. Also called Tolga.
This is the record you are looking at.
John J Haugen
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: John J Haugen
Arrival Date: 27 Mar 1902
Birth Date: abt 1883
Age: 19
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Oceanic
Here is the emigration record for Joh Jons. Haugen from 1902. He is listed as being from Tolgen.
John J Haugen
The person directly above John J Haugen is listed as Esten Vingelen. also from Tolgen.
Vingelen is a sub-parish in Tolgen parish, listed as Vingelen i Tolgen in the 1900 Norwegian Census.
He is listed as Esten Ols. Vindgelen in the Digitalarkivet Emigration Record
Esten
Here is a the full emigration page for John J Haugen, listed here as Jon Jons.Haugen and Esten Ols. Vindgelen both from Tolgen.
Emigration
Perhaps one of the Norwegian posters can explain the naming of Toglen or Tolga and what time frame each was used as the parish name. But from another poster on RootsWeb I found this.
"Tolgen Hedemarkens Amt, is today Tolga, Hedmark."
I think that the spelling Tjolgen in your document is a misspelling of the word Tolgen done by the transcriber from the original document. |
Edited by - AntonH on 28/10/2017 04:00:55 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 28/10/2017 : 05:07:59
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The most likely baptism record for John J Haugen from Tolgen Hedmark. He was born Nov 13, 1882 and baptized Dec. 10, 1882. His father is John Thorgersen an mother was Berit Amundsdatter. They lived on the Haugen farm. See number 7
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Randy Haugen
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 28/10/2017 : 12:07:57
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Originally posted by lyndal40
The most likely baptism record for John J Haugen from Tolgen Hedmark. He was born Nov 13, 1882 and baptized Dec. 10, 1882. His father is John Thorgersen an mother was Berit Amundsdatter. They lived on the Haugen farm. See number 7
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John J. from Lom, came to USA in 1898 and is 21 yrs old, according to the manifest.
- His parents, according to the link below are: Jon Torgerson & Berit Amundsdatter
https://digitalarkivet.no/en/search/persons?s=Jon+Johnsen+Haugen&event_year_from=&event_year_to=&event_date=
John J. from "Tjolgen" came to USA in 1902 and is 19 yrs old according to the manifest, and his parents are:
Jon Torgerson & Berit Amundsdatter
In summary, unless I'm confused, John J. from Lom & John J. from Tjolgen, have the same parents, which means they are the same guy.
What am I missing guys ? ?
Obviously there could be a myriad of reasons for leaving, coming back, using a different DOB, etc.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 28/10/2017 : 12:26:34
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Originally posted by Randy Haugen
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Originally posted by lyndal40
The most likely baptism record for John J Haugen from Tolgen Hedmark. He was born Nov 13, 1882 and baptized Dec. 10, 1882. His father is John Thorgersen an mother was Berit Amundsdatter. They lived on the Haugen farm. See number 7
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John J. from Lom, came to USA in 1898 and is 21 yrs old, according to the manifest.
- His parents, according to the link below are: Jon Torgerson & Berit Amundsdatter
https://digitalarkivet.no/en/search/persons?s=Jon+Johnsen+Haugen&event_year_from=&event_year_to=&event_date=
John J. from "Tjolgen" came to USA in 1902 and is 19 yrs old according to the manifest, and his parents are:
Jon Torgerson & Berit Amundsdatter
In summary, unless I'm confused, John J. from Lom & John J. from Tjolgen, have the same parents, which means they are the same guy.
What am I missing guys ? ?
Obviously there could be a myriad of reasons for leaving, coming back, using a different DOB, etc.
The answer is John from Lom and Jon from Tolgen do not have the same parents. In the links to baptism for John from Lom, his parents are John Hansen Andvorhaugen and Marit Olsdatter. |
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Randy Haugen
Starting member
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Posted - 28/10/2017 : 21:53:02
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Am I reading this record correctly as representing a Jon Johnsen Haugen, b. 11/13/1882 in Tolga/Tolgen?
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jkmarler
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Randy Haugen
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 29/10/2017 : 23:23:58
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| Not every parish, nor every moment of records from every parish are represented in any searchable database at either the Digitalarkivet or familysearch.org. Lom may be one of those not findable in the transcribed searchable records because it hasn't been transcribed or fully transcribed. So you are going to have to get your feet wet in the handwritten, Norwegian language original records by browsing, looking for events for each family member. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/10/2017 : 00:12:42
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| The baptismal record 1877 in Lom previously given includes the birth information. You are already looking at the birth record for that John Johnsen. |
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Randy Haugen
Starting member
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Posted - 30/10/2017 : 02:02:57
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Got it!
Thank you gentlemen, I appreciate your help.
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Haugens In America
