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pennywychopen
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 Posted - 04/01/2019 : 03:34:57
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| Ole was born to parents Berger Halvorsen Svarthagen, b. Dec 1815, and Olianne Nilsdtr Opsahl, b. Sept 7, 1814 in June 1853, Asnaes, Hedmark, Norway. I know he had a sister, Oline Bergersdtr Svarthagen, b. Aug 1855 in Asnaes. She married ......?, children? Ole had brothers Halvor and Nils also. I would appreciate any information on this family. Thank you! |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/01/2019 : 04:56:20
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A candidate for Oline, her husband and children in the 1891 Census. Must be the husbands second marriage. Also seems as if the mother of Oline is living with them.
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John Olsen married Oline Bergersdatter in 1885. Number 4 from the bottom of the page
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They had a child Ingeborg in 1889.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 04/01/2019 : 05:10:13
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| Charles your link did not work for me. |
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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 04/01/2019 : 05:13:06
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Hi Anton I couldn't get link to work 1875 Census
Berger Halvorsen then check Hedmark he is the one with 1815 date
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Myhrecharlie
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ToreL
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Norway
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Posted - 04/01/2019 : 12:25:13
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Here is Berger Halvorsen and Olianna Nilsdatter with children in the 1865 census:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01038043002754
Ole Bergersen would be 12 years at the time, but is not there. From where do you have the information that he was born to these parents in 1853? |
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pennywychopen
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Posted - 04/01/2019 : 16:36:21
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| That birthdate was taken from other family that was researching also, they were not sure of the date though. I have found the US census and it has estimated Apr 1841. Sorry, I just took that date from the other paperwork in front of me. Thank you so much for everything so far, I really appreciate it. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 04/01/2019 : 17:07:29
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Original poster from an earlier post lead to some searching.
From what I remember from that searching most of which I did not post.
Berger Halvorsen Svarthaugen and Olianna Nilsdatter Opsahl had children. The only one named Ole was born in 1841 in Åsnæs, Hedmark according to the Ancestry.com trees.
He married Olivia Olsdatter Holm born in 1853 in 1874,
Marriage #25
They had a child Olea (Olive ) also in 1874, Number 8 in the girls.
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It may be this Ole the Original Poster is referring to.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/01/2019 : 17:25:31
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Penny, I see you have a very complete Family Tree on Ancestry.com. There is a danger here that we do a lot of searching and only find information that you already have in your tree and thus waste an lot of time and effort for no purpose.
Are you trying to find information to prove or disprove the information you already have in your Haig Famly Tree.
This is what you have for
Oline Bergersdtr Svarthagen
1855–1941
BIRTH AUG 1855 • Åsnæs, Hedmark, Norway
DEATH 5 SEP 1941 • Duluth, MN
Married to
Johannes Gabrielsen Fleinstad
1841–1915
BIRTH 28 DEC 1841 • Åfjord, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway
DEATH 28 MAY 1915 • Mayville, ND
with a child
Borghild Olava Flengstad
1887–1975
BIRTH 13 JUN 1887 • Åsnæs, Hedmark, Norway
DEATH 14 JAN 1975 • Chippewa Falls, WI
That would not seem to fit well with the 1891 Census I posted above for Oline Bergersdatter. |
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pennywychopen
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Posted - 04/01/2019 : 20:18:35
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I’m sorry, but I trying to find a true connection with an Ancestry DNA result with Ole Bergerson as our common ancestor. They have Ole’s parents as Berger Amundsen Rusten , b. 1809? and Oliana Olsdatter b. 1814. Also Ole was married to Eline Kristiansdatter, b. Mar 25, 1842 and had a daughter Anne Marie Olsdatter b. Aug 5, 1866. Then he married Olivia Holm?
The marriage of Ole’s sister Oline in Norway, is also needed because we don’t know who she married,and would like to find out. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/01/2019 : 20:33:15
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Have you contacted the poster of the Ancestry website info that shows your strong DNA match and asked what sources they have for the paternity information they've given for Ole Bergerson?
Shouldn't you two be comparing sources and notes and working together to determine which information actually is factual. |
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pennywychopen
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Posted - 04/01/2019 : 20:47:18
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| I would have loved to compare but the DNA match lives in Grue, Norway and I am unable to speak Norwegian. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/01/2019 : 23:02:44
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Have you tried, many Norwegians do as well or better than some Americans with English. They can always try Google translate just as we do.
Any way here is some information on a Berger Amundsen born in 1809 in Hof/ Åsnes, Hedmark. Parents are Amund Pedersen and Marthe Torresdatter . Baptism is Oct 21, 1809, Record is fourth entry left page.
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Farm is Kiølen, Here is the transcribed version
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Berger Amundsen married Oliana Olsdatter Jan 20, 1843. The farm name he used at that time was Rusten.
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Before they were married Berger Amundsen Rusten and Oliana Olsdatter Hammeren had a son named Ole who was born April 26, 1840.
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pennywychopen
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Posted - 04/01/2019 : 23:30:19
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| Thank you so much, I’ll check this all out! Again thank you! |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/01/2019 : 00:07:29
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You mentioned an Anne Marie born to Eline Christiansdatter in 1866. I did find the baptism record for Anne Marie, however she is listed as being born out of wedlock and no father is listed.
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Her mother was as you said born in 1842 to Christian Johnsen and Anne Eriksdatter. She can be found with her mother in the 1865 Census.
1865
So far I have not found a record for a marriage of Ole Bergersen and Eline Christiansdatter.
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ToreL
Advanced member
Norway
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Posted - 05/01/2019 : 00:53:58
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I have difficulties following status of the various finds in this thread, but for what it's worth I thought I should mention that I have seen the farm name Hammeren (mentioned with Oliana Olsdatter right above) before, in the 1874 marriage record for Ole Bergersen and Olivia Olsdatter, where the birth place of Ole is given as Hammeren. (No. 25.)
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060725050256 |
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Researching 2x great-grandfather Ole Bergersen
