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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 02/04/2019 : 18:53:33
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Good find by Jackie. Here is the arrival of Jacobine and Signe in 1887
Josefine Thorkeldsen
in the Massachusetts, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1963
Name: Josefine Thorkeldsen
Gender: Female
Age: 50
Birth Date: abt 1837
Departure Place: Queenstown Ireland and Liverpool England, Ireland and Liverpool England
Arrival Date: 23 Jul 1887
Arrival Place: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Ship: Catalonia
If you have access to Ancestry.com you can see that several other passengers leaving at the same time as Jacobine and Signe are on this ship. Here is a link to a list of some of the passengers.
Link
Abstracter listed Signe as
Sevin Thorkeldsen
in the Massachusetts, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1963
Name: Sevin Thorkeldsen
Gender: Female
Age: 4
Birth Date: abt 1883
Departure Place: Queenstown Ireland and Liverpool England, Ireland and Liverpool England
Arrival Date: 23 Jul 1887
Arrival Place: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Ship: Catalonia
Two new mysteries for you, why the home city as Stavanger and why listed as going to Chicago?
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I'm reasonably certain that the Jacobine and Signe and Laura leaving in 1887 are the right family. But it shows the nature of passenger list records that names and details can get muddled. So OP has searched passenger lists for Jacobine, Signe and Laura and was thwarted because of the spelling of 2 of the three names.
Some ships start out picking up passengers and then go to other ports in Norway to pick up additional passengers, and perhaps the various records got muddled, that may be what has happened.
I've looked closely at the 1885 census in Stavanger and can say I don't feel confident that the family was found there. Likewise, though, no result from the same kind of scrutiny of Oslo's 1885 census. Where were they?
But you know its Jacobine, Signe since those are the names in the Norwegian side of the equation. The scrambling took place on the Brit & Yankee side of the equation.
The Norwegian list tells that Jacobine is married, although the husband does not appear to be present. Often this was a "family" solution, the husband goes first and gets employed, finds a place to live and the rest of the family comes later.
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Tammysmith
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Posted - 02/04/2019 : 19:17:24
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| I do agree. When your message came through, I was looking for Lars coming over prior to 1887. I've heard there is a state, Wisconsin or Minnesota, where many Norwegians went for work, making the area like a Little Norway. I'm still really new to genealogy, and do appreciate all your help! It feels much better not to have a dead end in the late 1800's, as I have gone back to 1300's in other family branches....thank you again! |
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Tammysmith
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Posted - 03/04/2019 : 03:50:30
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Sorry i missed your question about Finland. I went to ancestry.com and entered Sevin Thorkildsen and the passanger list came up: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/8745/MAM277_104-0314?pid=3543527&backurl=https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D8745%26h%3D3543527%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DfXF5731%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=fXF5731&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true
now that Im rereading it, Signe and Jacobine are from Finland and placed on a seperate part of the ship from Laura, who is listed from Norway.........is this possible? Now im having second thoughts. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 03/04/2019 : 06:47:52
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But you know its Jacobine, Signe since those are the names in the Norwegian side of the equation. The scrambling took place on the Brit & Yankee side of the equation.
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