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billhughes
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Posted - 16/07/2020 :  00:41:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Can anyone help me trace my ancestors from Stokke Vestfold and then Moss Ostfold. Ive got info about Stokke from 1865 census. An ancestor was born 1886 in Moss Ostfold but I cannot find any more information. I have lots of information including family names and farm name. Thank you

jkmarler
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Posted - 16/07/2020 :  05:01:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A name would certainly be helpful...
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billhughes
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Posted - 16/07/2020 :  13:57:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Im sorry but I didnt give any more detail because I didnt want to overpower people with too much info straight away this is what I have.

1865 census 720 Stokke living at Raastad Sondre farm Notteroy,Stokke

My GT grandfather was Ole Nikolausen born 1853 he became a ships carpenter and settled in Scotland he can be discounted because I have all his information right up to his death in 1905.

Father Nikolai Johnasen born 1811 Sweden died 1885 Stokke
Mother Oliana Olsdatter born Notteroy 1820
Brother leonard born Stokke 1860 died Stokke 1877
Sister Mathine born Stokke 1855
Last person on the census entry is a relation who was a sailor

The only other info I can find is Mathine married Anders Klaus and they had at least one daughter Martha Elida born 1886 at Moss Ostfold. So would her name be Martha Elida Andersdatter ? I cannot find Mathine/Anders marriage Ive tried many variations of their names, but need someone with a better knowledge of Norweigan geneaology to help me. I know we still have living family in the area so it would be nice to bring my research up to the 21st century. Thanks
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jkmarler
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Posted - 16/07/2020 :  18:33:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The information that you do have, how / where did you obtain?

Here is a link to the family in the 1865 census:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038117000177

Edited by - jkmarler on 16/07/2020 18:57:58
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billhughes
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Posted - 16/07/2020 :  18:53:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I got the information from the Norwegian census website dont ask me to spell it and Family Search. Also Ole death certificate and marriage certificate confirmed parents names. From memory I tried Ancestry but got nowhere might have been my fault looking in the wrong place or putting in the wrong information
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jkmarler
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Posted - 16/07/2020 :  18:59:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the daughter Marthine and her husband and chilcren and her father in 1891 census:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052815000082

Here is her family in 1875:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052149000191

Lots of clues where to look for the Swedish roots, when you get to that.

Here is Martine in 1875 on her own:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052151004052

Edited by - jkmarler on 16/07/2020 19:02:37
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AntonH
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Posted - 16/07/2020 :  19:14:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marriage of Marthine. But not to Anders Klaus?

Martine Nicolaysdr
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Martine Nicolaysdr
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 6 nov 1879
Marriage Place: Stokke ,Vestfold,Norway
Spouse: Ole Kristian Andreasen
FHL Film Number: 1282541

Original record number 43. Father is Nicolay Jonasen Raastad.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061107320516

Edited by - AntonH on 16/07/2020 19:24:41
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AntonH
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Posted - 16/07/2020 :  19:29:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So here is the baptism record of your Martha Elda.

Martha Elida Klausen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Martha Elida Klausen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 15 mar 1886
Baptism Date: 1 aug 1886
Baptism Place: Moss , Ostfold, Norway
Father: Anders Klausen
Mother: Marthine Nikolaisen
FHL Film Number: 255780
Reference ID: 2:1S361VC

See record number 82

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060928020569

Edited by - AntonH on 16/07/2020 19:48:19
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AntonH
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Posted - 16/07/2020 :  19:33:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are Anders Klausen and wife Martine in the 1885 Moss Østfold Census. Martha Elida not yet born.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01053252002928

This Martine is listed as having been born in Rygge parish, Østfold.


Edited by - AntonH on 16/07/2020 19:35:57
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jkmarler
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Posted - 16/07/2020 :  19:34:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are Martine and her husband and children in 1900 census:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037144000138

Martine on her own in 1910, widow of sailor:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036500000144

The daughter of Martine ( born Stokke) named Martine birth /baptism #22
SAKO, Stokke kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0010: Parish register (official) no. I 10, 1884-1903, p. 20
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060628080248

Edited by - jkmarler on 16/07/2020 19:51:05
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AntonH
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Posted - 16/07/2020 :  19:39:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think we have two Martine Nikolasen. Which one is yours?

Marriage of Martine Nicolasdatter to Anders Klausen

Anders Klaussen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Anders Klaussen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 30 mar 1873
Marriage Place: Moss,Ostfold,Norway
Spouse: Martine Nicolaisdr
FHL Film Number: 1282638

Original record is number 30

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060928020263

Edited by - AntonH on 16/07/2020 19:43:17
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billhughes
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Posted - 16/07/2020 :  19:41:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for that. I will have a good look later when I can concentrate without being distracted. I might need help in the translation I know sen is son and datter is daughter and matros is sailor but thats about my limit. Many thanks
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jkmarler
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Posted - 16/07/2020 :  19:52:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If your family was from Stokke, then the Martine / Klaus connection is not yours.
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AntonH
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Posted - 16/07/2020 :  19:53:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is Martine in the 1875 Census with her husband Anders Klausen. She is using the last name of Torgersen and not Nikolaison. That is a bit odd.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052029000324

Martine Klausen in 1900 Norwegian Census

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036996008158

1910 Norwegian Census

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036336007217

Edited by - AntonH on 16/07/2020 19:57:35
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billhughes
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Posted - 16/07/2020 :  19:57:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lyndal The one you quote married to Anders Klausen is the one I found. All I can tell you she was born 1855 in Stokke. Do Norwegian wedding certificates give parents names ? If there are 2 Martine Nikolasdatter Ive no idea how to work out which one is which..Also geographically Vestfold and Ostfold are only across Oslo Fford from each other . On rechecking Ole wedding cert in 1886 his father is listed as a builder.
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AntonH
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Posted - 16/07/2020 :  20:18:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes the Norwegian wedding records do sometimes give fathers names.

In this case both wedding records do give the name of the father.

And shown on page 2 help define which Martine is which.

Edited by - AntonH on 16/07/2020 20:52:48
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