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AntonH
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Posted - 13/11/2020 : 22:52:12
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As to the mother of Dorte Mikkelsdatter. On April 5, 1779, Mikkel Jansen did marry a Anne Pedersdatter as is stated in the Family Search tree.
far left column near the bottom, look for fer 2nd
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603220019
The tree also shows that Anne died in 1796 which would make her a more likely mother of Dorte than the wife in the 1801 Census.
Also found the record on Ancestry.com
Anne Pedersdr in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926 Name: Anne Pedersdr Gender: Female Marriage Date: 5 apr 1779 Marriage Place: Sor Odal,Hedmark,Norway Spouse: Michel Johansen FHL Film Number: 124377
And I also found the second marriage of Michel Jansen in 1796, to Marthe Andersdatter. So the mother of Dorte who was born in 1789, must be Anne Pedersdatter.
Marthe Andersdr in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926 Name: Marthe Andersdr Gender: Female Marriage Date: 1 okt 1796 (1 Oct 1796) Marriage Place: Sor Odal,Hedmark,Norway Spouse: Mechel Johansen FHL Film Number: 124377
5th record from the bottom in the 2nd column from the left
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603220126
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AntonH
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 14/11/2020 : 00:21:31
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Norway is a small country and many times families living close together ended up being closely related.
Here we have Anne Bergersdatter whose parents are likely to be Berger Jonsen and Dorthe Mikkelsdatter.
Anne Bergersen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Anne Bergersen Gender: Female Birth Date: 28 nov 1822 Baptism Date: 25 des 1822 (25 Dec 1822) Baptism Place: Sor Odal,Hedmark,Norway Father: Berger Jonsen Mother: Dorte Mikkelsdr FHL Film Number: 124378
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603220470
These are the same parents as those for Berger Bergesen.
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Edited by - AntonH on 14/11/2020 02:09:15 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/11/2020 : 00:33:00
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So here is a short family tree for the relationship from above.
Berger Jonsen and Dorte Mikkelsdatter had several children including Berger and Anne.
Berger Bergersen born 1819 married Eli Andersdatter in 1846
They had a daughter Dina Bergersen in 1847.
His sister Anne Bergersdatter born 1822 married Engebret Olsen in 1848.
They had a son Martin Engebretsen in 1854.
As we know Martin Engebretsen married Dina Bergesen his cousin in 1876.
They had a son Carl Martinsen Berg in 1883. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/11/2020 : 02:16:15
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Marriage of Jon Jansen and Kari Bergersdatter, parents of Berger
John Jansen in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926 Name: John Jansen Gender: Male Marriage Date: 9 nov 1783 Marriage Place: Sor Odal,Hedmark,Norway Spouse: Kari Bergesdr FHL Film Number: 124377
Middle of the page far right column
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603220043
Baptism of Kari Bergersdatter
Kari Bergersen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Kari Bergersen Gender: Female Baptism Date: 23 aug 1761 Baptism Place: Sor Odal,Hedmark,Norway Father: Berger Stor Fullu FHL Film Number: 124377
First record third column from the left .
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603210665
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/11/2020 : 23:57:07
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From above
"His sister Anne Bergersdatter born 1822 married Engebret Olsen in 1848."
Here is their marriage.
Engebret Olsen in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926 Name: Engebret Olsen Gender: Male Marriage Date: 7 nov 1848 Marriage Place: Sor Odal,Hedmark,Norway Spouse: Anne Bergersdr FHL Film Number: 124378
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603220627
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/11/2020 : 00:05:26
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Baptism record for Engebret Olsen
Engebret Olsen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Engebret Olsen Gender: Male Birth Date: 9 sep 1820 Baptism Date: 8 okt 1820 (8 Oct 1820) Baptism Place: Sor Odal,Hedmark,Norway Father: Ole Olsen Mother: Mari Guldbrandsdr FHL Film Number: 124377
Nr. 53
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603220334
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AntonH
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AntonH
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/11/2020 : 01:26:34
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Marriage of the parens of Bernt Johannesen.
Johannes Bergersen in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926 Name: Johannes Bergersen Gender: Male Age: 25 Birth Date: 1830 Marriage Date: 9 aug 1855 Marriage Place: Vinger, Hedmark, Norway Father: Berger Johnsen Spouse: Thore Larsdr FHL Film Number: 307234 Reference ID: 20
Brides father is Lars Amundsen
Nr. 65
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070124330349
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/11/2020 : 01:28:39
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You certainly have a close knit family back in Norway. Here is another of the Bergersen family that is a part of your family tree. Same parents as Anne and Berger.
Baptism of Johannes Bergersen
Johannes Bergersen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Johannes Bergersen Gender: Male Birth Date: 10 mar 1830 Baptism Date: 21 mar 1830 Baptism Place: Sor Odal,Hedmark,Norway Father: Berger Johnsen Mother: Dorthe Mikkelsdr FHL Film Number: 124378
Right page Mar 21
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603220502
Baptism of Thore Larsdatter
Thore Larsen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Thore Larsen Gender: Female Birth Date: 23 jan 1836 Baptism Date: 14 feb 1836 Baptism Place: Sor Odal,Hedmark,Norway Father: Lars Amundsen Mother: Mari Jensdr FHL Film Number: 124378
Fourth entry in the Feb 14 section right page.
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603220526 |
Edited by - AntonH on 15/11/2020 02:16:24 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/11/2020 : 01:46:17
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Here is a little chart on how you are descendant from Berger Bergersen and Eli Andersdatter through three different family lines.
Berger Bergersen married Eli Andersdatter in 1846
They had a daughter Dina Bergersen in 1847.
His sister Anne Bergersdatter married Engebret Olsen in 1848.
They had a son Martin Engebretsen in 1854.
As we know Martin Engebretsen married Dina Bergesen his cousin in 1876.
They had a son Carl Martinsen Berg in 1883.
Berger Bergersen who was married to Eli Andersdatter
They had a third child, son Johannes Bergersen in 1830.
Johannes married Thore Larsdattr in 1855.
They had a son Bernt Johannsen in 1857.
Bernt Johannesen married Alberta Bergersdatter in 1885.
They had a daughter Betsy Otille Berntsdatter in 1885.
Otillie of course married Carl
So you are related to Berger Bergersenand Eli Andersdatter through three different family lines.
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Edited by - AntonH on 15/11/2020 01:48:35 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/11/2020 : 02:05:06
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Here is the baptism of Alberta future wife of Bernt Johannesen.
Alberta Bergersen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Alberta Bergersen [Alberta Jonsen] Gender: Female Baptism Date: 27 okt 1861 (27 Oct 1861) Baptism Place: , Grue, Hedmark, Norway Father: Berger Jonsen Mother: Olea Arnesdr FHL Film Number: 307242
Nr. 296
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070125320516
Have not been able to find a baptism for either Berger Jonsen or Olea Arnesdatter.
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/11/2020 : 02:38:43
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Here is the marriage of the parents of Thore Larsdatter wife of Johannes Bergersen.
Lars Amundsen in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926 Name: Lars Amundsen Gender: Male Marriage Date: 29 okt 1835 (29 Oct 1835) Marriage Place: Sor Odal,Hedmark,Norway Spouse: Mari Jensdr FHL Film Number: 124378
Second from bottom right page
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603220618
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/11/2020 : 03:01:20
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Probably the baptism of Lars Amundsen and Mari Jensdatter. Both are listed as 25 years old at the marriage. Putting the birth year about 1810.
Lars Amundsen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927Name: Lars Amundsen Gender: Male Birth Date: 10 sep 1810 Baptism Date: 16 sep 1810 Baptism Place: Sor Odal,Hedmark,Norway Father: Amund Xstophersen Mother: Tore Larsdr FHL Film Number: 124377
third entry from the bottom, left page, second column
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603220242
Mari Jensen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Mari Jensen Gender: Female Birth Date: 6 jul 1810 Baptism Date: 5 aug 1810 Baptism Place: Sor Odal,Hedmark,Norway Father: Jens Jensen Mother: Marte Larsdr FHL Film Number: 124377
Last entry, left page, second column
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603220241
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Edited by - AntonH on 15/11/2020 03:16:51 |
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