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AntonH
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Posted - 13/11/2020 :  22:52:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As to the mother of Dorte Mikkelsdatter. On April 5, 1779, Mikkel Jansen did marry a Anne Pedersdatter as is stated in the Family Search tree.

far left column near the bottom, look for fer 2nd


https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603220019

The tree also shows that Anne died in 1796 which would make her a more likely mother of Dorte than the wife in the 1801 Census.

Also found the record on Ancestry.com

Anne Pedersdr
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Anne Pedersdr
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 5 apr 1779
Marriage Place: Sor Odal,Hedmark,Norway
Spouse: Michel Johansen
FHL Film Number: 124377

And I also found the second marriage of Michel Jansen in 1796, to Marthe Andersdatter. So the mother of Dorte who was born in 1789, must be Anne Pedersdatter.

Marthe Andersdr
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Marthe Andersdr
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 1 okt 1796 (1 Oct 1796)
Marriage Place: Sor Odal,Hedmark,Norway
Spouse: Mechel Johansen
FHL Film Number: 124377

5th record from the bottom in the 2nd column from the left

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603220126


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AntonH
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Posted - 13/11/2020 :  23:52:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Back to the other side of the family. Martin Engebretsen. His parents Engebret Olsen and Anne Bergersdatter were married in 1848.

Engebret Olsen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Engebret Olsen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 7 nov 1848
Marriage Place: Sor Odal,Hedmark,Norway
Spouse: Anne Bergersdr
FHL Film Number: 124378

See Nov 7

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603220627

1865 Census

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038037000719

The couple in 1875 Census with Martin.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052065000659

Edited by - AntonH on 14/11/2020 00:27:38
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/11/2020 :  00:21:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Norway is a small country and many times families living close together ended up being closely related.

Here we have Anne Bergersdatter whose parents are likely to be Berger Jonsen and Dorthe Mikkelsdatter.

Anne Bergersen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Anne Bergersen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 28 nov 1822
Baptism Date: 25 des 1822 (25 Dec 1822)
Baptism Place: Sor Odal,Hedmark,Norway
Father: Berger Jonsen
Mother: Dorte Mikkelsdr
FHL Film Number: 124378

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603220470

These are the same parents as those for Berger Bergesen.

Edited by - AntonH on 14/11/2020 02:09:15
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/11/2020 :  00:33:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So here is a short family tree for the relationship from above.

Berger Jonsen and Dorte Mikkelsdatter had several children including Berger and Anne.


Berger Bergersen born 1819 married Eli Andersdatter in 1846

They had a daughter Dina Bergersen in 1847.

His sister Anne Bergersdatter born 1822 married Engebret Olsen in 1848.

They had a son Martin Engebretsen in 1854.

As we know Martin Engebretsen married Dina Bergesen his cousin in 1876.

They had a son Carl Martinsen Berg in 1883.

Edited by - AntonH on 14/11/2020 01:52:32
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/11/2020 :  02:16:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marriage of Jon Jansen and Kari Bergersdatter, parents of Berger

John Jansen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: John Jansen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 9 nov 1783
Marriage Place: Sor Odal,Hedmark,Norway
Spouse: Kari Bergesdr
FHL Film Number: 124377

Middle of the page far right column

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603220043

Baptism of Kari Bergersdatter

Kari Bergersen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Kari Bergersen
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 23 aug 1761
Baptism Place: Sor Odal,Hedmark,Norway
Father: Berger Stor Fullu
FHL Film Number: 124377

First record third column from the left .

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603210665


Edited by - AntonH on 14/11/2020 02:33:56
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/11/2020 :  23:57:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From above


"His sister Anne Bergersdatter born 1822 married Engebret Olsen in 1848."

Here is their marriage.

Engebret Olsen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Engebret Olsen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 7 nov 1848
Marriage Place: Sor Odal,Hedmark,Norway
Spouse: Anne Bergersdr
FHL Film Number: 124378

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603220627

Edited by - AntonH on 15/11/2020 00:01:30
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/11/2020 :  00:05:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Baptism record for Engebret Olsen

Engebret Olsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Engebret Olsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 9 sep 1820
Baptism Date: 8 okt 1820 (8 Oct 1820)
Baptism Place: Sor Odal,Hedmark,Norway
Father: Ole Olsen
Mother: Mari Guldbrandsdr
FHL Film Number: 124377

Nr. 53

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603220334

Edited by - AntonH on 15/11/2020 00:10:11
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/11/2020 :  00:31:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Posted on page one by Jackie is the 1910 Norwegian Census record for Carl and Ottile. It lists her birth date as Feb 27, 1885.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036405002543

Here is her baptism record

Nr. 13

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060725010386

Parents are Bernt Johannsen and Alberta Begersdatter.

Interesting her name at baptism was Betsy Otille.

Bernt and Alberta were married Jan 1, 1885.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000003978737

Betzy Otilie Berntsd. Edsberg and her parents and siblings in the 1891 Norwegian Census.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052733000399







Edited by - AntonH on 15/11/2020 01:41:12
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/11/2020 :  00:39:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bernt Johannesen and his parents and siblings in the 1865 Census

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038039005539

Alberta and her parents and siblings in the 1865 Census.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038039005493

Edited by - AntonH on 15/11/2020 00:48:51
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/11/2020 :  01:26:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marriage of the parens of Bernt Johannesen.

Johannes Bergersen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Johannes Bergersen
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Birth Date: 1830
Marriage Date: 9 aug 1855
Marriage Place: Vinger, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Berger Johnsen
Spouse: Thore Larsdr
FHL Film Number: 307234
Reference ID: 20

Brides father is Lars Amundsen

Nr. 65

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070124330349


Edited by - AntonH on 15/11/2020 02:09:44
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/11/2020 :  01:28:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You certainly have a close knit family back in Norway. Here is another of the Bergersen family that is a part of your family tree. Same parents as Anne and Berger.

Baptism of Johannes Bergersen

Johannes Bergersen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Johannes Bergersen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 10 mar 1830
Baptism Date: 21 mar 1830
Baptism Place: Sor Odal,Hedmark,Norway
Father: Berger Johnsen
Mother: Dorthe Mikkelsdr
FHL Film Number: 124378

Right page Mar 21

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603220502


Baptism of Thore Larsdatter

Thore Larsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Thore Larsen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 23 jan 1836
Baptism Date: 14 feb 1836
Baptism Place: Sor Odal,Hedmark,Norway
Father: Lars Amundsen
Mother: Mari Jensdr
FHL Film Number: 124378

Fourth entry in the Feb 14 section right page.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603220526

Edited by - AntonH on 15/11/2020 02:16:24
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/11/2020 :  01:46:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a little chart on how you are descendant from Berger Bergersen and Eli Andersdatter through three different family lines.

Berger Bergersen married Eli Andersdatter in 1846

They had a daughter Dina Bergersen in 1847.

His sister Anne Bergersdatter married Engebret Olsen in 1848.

They had a son Martin Engebretsen in 1854.

As we know Martin Engebretsen married Dina Bergesen his cousin in 1876.

They had a son Carl Martinsen Berg in 1883.


Berger Bergersen who was married to Eli Andersdatter

They had a third child, son Johannes Bergersen in 1830.

Johannes married Thore Larsdattr in 1855.

They had a son Bernt Johannsen in 1857.

Bernt Johannesen married Alberta Bergersdatter in 1885.

They had a daughter Betsy Otille Berntsdatter in 1885.

Otillie of course married Carl

So you are related to Berger Bergersenand Eli Andersdatter through three different family lines.

Edited by - AntonH on 15/11/2020 01:48:35
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/11/2020 :  02:05:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the baptism of Alberta future wife of Bernt Johannesen.

Alberta Bergersen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Alberta Bergersen
[Alberta Jonsen]
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 27 okt 1861 (27 Oct 1861)
Baptism Place: , Grue, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Berger Jonsen
Mother: Olea Arnesdr
FHL Film Number: 307242

Nr. 296

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070125320516

Have not been able to find a baptism for either Berger Jonsen or Olea Arnesdatter.


Edited by - AntonH on 15/11/2020 02:34:31
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/11/2020 :  02:38:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the marriage of the parents of Thore Larsdatter wife of Johannes Bergersen.

Lars Amundsen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Lars Amundsen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 29 okt 1835 (29 Oct 1835)
Marriage Place: Sor Odal,Hedmark,Norway
Spouse: Mari Jensdr
FHL Film Number: 124378

Second from bottom right page

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603220618


Edited by - AntonH on 15/11/2020 02:56:48
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/11/2020 :  03:01:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably the baptism of Lars Amundsen and Mari Jensdatter. Both are listed as 25 years old at the marriage. Putting the birth year about 1810.

Lars Amundsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927Name: Lars Amundsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 10 sep 1810
Baptism Date: 16 sep 1810
Baptism Place: Sor Odal,Hedmark,Norway
Father: Amund Xstophersen
Mother: Tore Larsdr
FHL Film Number: 124377

third entry from the bottom, left page, second column

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603220242

Mari Jensen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Mari Jensen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 6 jul 1810
Baptism Date: 5 aug 1810
Baptism Place: Sor Odal,Hedmark,Norway
Father: Jens Jensen
Mother: Marte Larsdr
FHL Film Number: 124377

Last entry, left page, second column

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603220241


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