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loyane
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Posted - 23/04/2021 : 15:31:35
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This is another person that I have been searching for, it seems like «ages», and I know there are descendants of his in Norway who would so much like to know what happened to «grandpa»!?
Jacob Sophus Anderson, the son av Anders Christenson (Kinserdal) from Hafslo (1826-1899) and Rebekka Andrea Jacobson from Lødingen in Nordland (1835-1875), was born in Lødingen Co., Nordland on July 25, 1866.
The last we see of Jacob Sophus in Norway is this: An illegitimate son of his, Jakob Andreas, was born in Vågan Co., Nordland Nov. 14, 1893, home christened on Jan. 2, 1894, with confirmation of this christening on June 22 1894:
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/5733/53
About the father it says he is a sailor in Hammarøy County, but «afreist til Amerika»! So he apparently «took off», either in 1893 or in 1894. I have not found a specific emigration record for him!
But, when the son was married in Norway in 1919, it says about his father Jacob Sophus, that he was «kontormann, død i Amerika». So there must have been some contact, but today noone knows what happened to Jacob Sophus!
One brother of Jacob Sophus emigrated in 1886. He was also a seaman and lived on the West coast. He first went by Ingemand RUST, but later, after he moved and remarried, canged his name to Christian Anderson. I have worked a lot on his biography hoping it might lead to Jacob Sophus, but without success:
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Ole Kristian Ingemann Andersen, kjend som Ingemand C. A. Rust, sidan som Christian I. Anderson, f. i Tysfjord, Lødingen 28.9.1868, utvandra til Amerika i 1886 og gifte seg første gongen i San Francisco, Cal. 23.12.1903 med enkja Theresa M. Johnson, f. Baker, opphavleg frå Liverpool i Lancashire, England. Ho var dotter av båtsmann George Baker i Liverpool, opphavleg frå Portadown, Armagh Co., Irland, og kona Margaret f. Todd frå Manchester, Lancashire Co., England og f. i Liverpool, Lancashire Co., England 16.10.1867, men utvandra til Amerika i 1890. Ho gifte seg første gongen kring 1895 med John C. Johnson, ein finskrussisk matros («master mariner»), f. i Russland ?.4.1855 og utvandra til Amerika i 1871, men han miste livet i eit forlis nær San Francisco, Cal. 22.2.1901. Christian var fiskar og deleigar i ein fiskebåt og likeins i ein hermetikkfabrikk i Alaska («fisherman and fisherboat and cannery part owner») og siglde på vestkysten, men hadde den formelle bustaden sin i San Francisco, Cal. Han og Theresa vart skilde alt i 1905, og Theresa Rust flytte til San Mateo, San Mateo Co., Cal. der ho livnærte seg som syerske («dressmaker»), men ho d. i San Francisco, Cal. 20.10.1918. Christian hadde i 1910 opphaldet sitt i Orea, Cordova distrikt i Alaska, men gifte seg att i Los Angeles, Cal. 22.11.1912 med Beda Amanda, kjend som Amanda Eriksdotter frå Bräcke i Jämtlands län, Sverige, i Amerika kjend som Amanda Erickson. Ho var dotter av paktar Erik Olofsson i Örtjärnsdalen, Bräcke i Jämtlands län, Sverige, opphavleg frå Umeå i Västerbottens län, og kona Brita Juliana Andersdotter frå Bräcke og f. i Nyhem, Jämtlands län i Sverige 14.11.1878. Amanda utvandra til Amerika i 1893 og hadde ei tid livnært seg som kokke («cook») i Pasadena, Los Angeles Co., Cal. Christian heldt fram som fiskar og fiskebåteigar («fisherman and fisherboat owner»), og han og Amanda budde ei tid I Grays Harbor Co., Wash., men flytte kring 1918 til Friday Harbor, San Juan Co., Wash. der Christian d. 31.8.1935. Amanda Anderson livnærte seg sidan som butikkdame («cosmetic store sales lady») same staden, men d. i Spokane, Wash. 6.3.1952. Christian fekk to born, ein son i første ekteskapet og ei dotter i det andre.
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I once had a note saying that one of these boys had been in New Zealand for a while, but cannot find a proof of that...
Thanks a million in advance for any suggestions in regard to Jacob Sophus Anderson (Rust)!
Very sincerely yours, |
Lars E. Oyane |
Edited by - loyane on 23/04/2021 23:17:05 |
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jkmarler
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/04/2021 : 21:51:50
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quote: A possible, Jacob Anderson candy store proprietor in 1910: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:ML5Q-8ZP
Probably the same guy in1900. Did not manage to find his record on Familysearch.
Jacob Anderson in the 1900 United States Federal Census Name: Jacob Anderson Age: 36 Birth Date: May 1864 Birthplace: Norway Home in 1900: Calumet, Houghton, Michigan Street: Osceola Street House Number: 150 Sheet Number: 7 Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation: 70 Family Number: 135 Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1887 Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Single Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Norway Years in US: 13 Naturalization: Yes Occupation: Grocer Can Read: Yes Can Write: Yes Can Speak English: Yes House Owned or Rented: Rent Farm or House: H Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: 1
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AntonH
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jkmarler
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Posted - 23/04/2021 : 22:49:18
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Jacob in North Dakota's marriage was recorded in the First Lutheran church in Minot, N.D. In the record his parents are named as Anders and Olivia Anderson and his birthdate is 27 July 1866/1886 in Malafjord? Norway.
This might be his FAG: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/7998925/jacob-anderson
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loyane
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Posted - 23/04/2021 : 23:37:46
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Dear Jackie, Anton and other Listers!
Thank you very much for your interesting messages.
First of all: This is the Jacob Bernt Anderson who was married in Minot, ND in 1902. Jacob and Oline were both from Eid in Nordfjord: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NHTN-X98 So this Jacob is definitely not the one we want, even if the birthdate is VERY close to «ours»...
I have numerous notes on this family and have now spent some time rechecking these.
Confirmation of the son in 1909 shows the father as «kontorist» Jacob Sophus Anderson: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/10040/179
Marriage of the son in late 1919 shows the father as «kontorist» Jacob Anderson: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/43888/137
But here is another marriage record for the son in Narvik in early 1920 showing father as «avdød kontorist i Amerika» Jacob Sophus Anderson: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/39672/26
On this last record it appears as if «avdød» (deceased) has been added after the original record was established!
The 1910 census shows another good «match». a single Jacob Anderson, aged 44, emigrated 1892, a lumber mill laborer in Beltrami Co., MN, but I didn't quite like his occupation...
There is only one emigration record over Trondheim (which would include all of Northern Norway) which may «match»: Jacob Anderson, 26, emigrated from Trondenes Co. in 1893 with destination Milnor, ND! Jacob's youngest sister did live in Trondenes Co., which isn't really too far away from «home»: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000000122356
Then I should add: Several years ago I received from a descendant of Jacob' youngest sister information from a card file which her oldest granddaughter had compiled at least 50 years ago from information that she got from relatives who were then alive, and there are three cards of interest to us:
** Ole Kristian, born 1868 (without the Ingemann name) emigrated and lived in Alaska
** Ingemann, no birthyear, emigrated and was a shipcaptain and lived in New Zealand, but supposedly died in the 1906 San Francisco, CA earthquake
** Jacob Sofus, born 1872 (they got the year wrong), emigrated and was a «handelsstyrar» (store keeper) - no info on residence.
Ole Kristian and Ingemann are obviously the same person, Jacob Sophus' younger brother, but Jacob should be «clear»!
The absolutely «best» candidate for «our» Jacob is the candystore keeper in Michigan. But can he be followed?
And I strongly suspect the Jacob Anderson who in 1893 emigrated from Trondenes Co., Norway, is «our» man. So then he was also in Milnor, ND!?
In case Jacob also went by the last name RUST, I haven't yet found anyone «matching» that name, except for a guy ion Ramsey Co., ND, but he is obviously a different one!!
Thanks again for your wonderful assistance in this matter. It would be so great to finally figure out what happened to Jacob!
Very sincerely yours, |
Lars E. Oyane |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 23/04/2021 : 23:56:00
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quote: Originally posted by AntonH
quote: A possible, Jacob Anderson candy store proprietor in 1910: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:ML5Q-8ZP
Probably the same guy in1900. Did not manage to find his record on Familysearch.
Jacob Anderson in the 1900 United States Federal Census Name: Jacob Anderson Age: 36 Birth Date: May 1864 Birthplace: Norway Home in 1900: Calumet, Houghton, Michigan Street: Osceola Street House Number: 150 Sheet Number: 7 Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation: 70 Family Number: 135 Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1887 Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Single Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Norway Years in US: 13 Naturalization: Yes Occupation: Grocer Can Read: Yes Can Write: Yes Can Speak English: Yes House Owned or Rented: Rent Farm or House: H Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: 1
I was unable to find in familysearch also but since you have in Ancestry he looks a little less promising except for a twisted version of his occupation. |
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loyane
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Posted - 23/04/2021 : 23:59:27
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Dear Listers,
As I posted my last item, I made an interesting discovery:
Jacob Anderson in Calumet, MI had a middle initial E in the 1910 city directory, when he was listed as a bookkeeper: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/2469/images/7288256?treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Nzx25377&_phstart=successSource&pId=437776313
And here is another entry for the same guy(?), a confectioner in 1910: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/2469/images/7288341?usePUB=true&_phsrc=Nzx25378&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=437782230
But maybe more interesting(?) is this entry in the Milnor, ND church record of Jacob Anderson of Oakes (Dickey Co., ND) who died Mar. 14, 1904. He was born in Nordland, Norway: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/60722/images/41742_314918-00410?treeid=&personid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Nzx25371&_phstart=successSource&pId=1739450
Unfortunately, no age is given for this Jacob Anderson, but can he possibly be found in the 1900 census??
Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter!
Very sincerely yours, |
Lars E. Oyane |
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AntonH
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Posted - 24/04/2021 : 00:42:59
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A marriage record from Fargo for a Jakob Anderson of Hemnes, Norway. Fargo and Milnor are about an hour apart, so neither close nor far from one another.
Jakob Anderson in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969 Name: Jakob Anderson Gender: Male Record Type: Marriage Birth Place: Hemnes Norge Marriage Date: 6 Dec 1889 Marriage Place: Fargo, North Dakota, USA Spouse: Elise Mansen Church Name: Pontoppidan Church Location: Fargo, North Dakota
https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=60722&h=3916617&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=70839
Jacob Anderson in the Web: Cass County, North Dakota, U.S., Marriage License Index, 1873-1944 Name: Jacob Anderson Gender: Male Marriage Date: 6 Dec 1889 Marriage Place: Cass, North Dakota, USA Spouse: Elise Munson License Number: B00528 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 24/04/2021 : 01:13:54
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Well the Jacob who died March 1904 was a resident of Milnor. A short notice of his death was published in the Oakes N.D. paper: Oakes Republican Friday, Mar 18, 1904 Oakes, ND Page: 9 col 1.
"Died of Consumption Jacob Anderson who was at the Boardman Hospital suffering with consumption, died on March 13th and the remains were sent to his home at Milnor."
A Jacob Anderson was mentioned in connection with the Milnor Lutheran church: http://digitalhorizonsonline.org/digital/collection/ndsl-books/id/66660/rec/3 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 24/04/2021 : 02:03:15
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Odd spelling for the names. Delaware is in Sargent County, North Dakota.
Edd Leanard Aanderson in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969 Name: Edd Leanard Aanderson Baptism Age: 0 Record Type: Baptism Birth Date: 12 Feb 1887 Baptism Date: 1 May 1887 Baptism Place: Brainerd; Dalamere, Minnesota; North Dakota Father: Jacob I Aanderson Mother: Mary Aanderson Church Name: Milnor Lutheran Church Location: Milnor, North Dakota |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 24/04/2021 : 03:04:09
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In the minutes of the Milnor Lutheran Church from a meeting 29 Nov 1900 a J.S. Anderson was voted to be secretary. The printed page # is 25 and the image # 10
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loyane
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Posted - 24/04/2021 : 10:42:40
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Dear Anton, Jackie and other Listers!
Thank you very much for more exciting messages on this topic!
Jacob Anderson from Hemnes, who was married in Fargo in 1889, is this person who in 1888 emigrated to Christine, (Richland Co.,) ND: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000000096608
Here he is in 1900 in Wilkin Co., MN: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7602/images/4120322_01022?usePUB=true&_phsrc=Nzx25406&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=27409572
And he is still there in 1905, so he is no «candidate» for the Jacob who died in Oakes in 1904: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/1058/images/mnsc_162-0406?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=1b42b0d5b6a0dcc35069c6356a1bcb59&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Nzx25409&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.58803117.1621079734.1618435785-390650824.1612707015&pId=3796254
Then to the Jacob Anderson with wife Mary who had a son in the Milnor church in 1887. Milnor was a Scandinavian congregation and also had Swedish members. I don't know where they got DeLamere as place of residence, but I know fairly well that neighborhood where quite a few Sognings used to live in those days, some of them residents of West End township just over in Richland Co., ND, and I BELIEVE this is Jacob and Mary in the 1885 state census of Richland Co., ND: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/1078/images/44315_346017-00284?usePUB=true&_phsrc=Nzx25397&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=3456288
I have not been able to find this couple in later ND records, but sponsors in 1887 were David and Augusta Anderson, also Swedes, who in 1900 lived in Milnor, ND: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7602/images/4120523_00137?treeid=&personid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Nzx25413&_phstart=successSource&pId=38513441
David Anderson died in Milnor, ND Feb. 5, 1906 (same page as «our» Jacob): https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/60722/images/41742_314918-00410?treeid=&personid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Nzx25418&_phstart=successSource&pId=1739458
His grave: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/118668937/david-anderson
We know of two children born to Jacob and Mary Anderson at or near Milnor, ND. Then the family disappears - neither one of the children are confirmed at Milnor, BUT I do find the family of a David and Mary Anderson in 1900 in Minneapolis, MN - ages and birthplaces of both completely «match» with the 1885 Richland Co., ND census, and they had three children, two of whom were deceased, and only one daughter living, born in MN 1889: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7602/images/4120279_00514?treeid=&personid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Nzx25427&_phstart=successSource&pId=35883279
The 1910 census for Minneapolis, MN shows exactly the same!
I am fairly convinced this is the Jacob from DeLamere, ND, so then he can also be eliminated as the guy who died at Oakes, ND in 1904.
After this we remain with the Jacob Anderson mentioned in the church history at Milnor, and J. S. Anderson who in 1900 was voted to be a secretary of the church! A church secretary would qualify as a «kontorist» (office worker).
As long as we can be fairly certain «our» Jacob Sophus Anderson emigrated to Milnor, ND in 1893, I strongly suspect he be the guy who died in 1904! Or what do you think?
Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! A great teamwork!
Very sincerely yours, |
Lars E. Oyane |
Edited by - loyane on 24/04/2021 10:46:15 |
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jkmarler
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loyane
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Posted - 24/04/2021 : 13:59:06
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Dear Jackie and other Listers!
Thank you very much for your latest message! Tysfjord is one of the small counties in Nordland fylke, and that's where «our» Jacob was born. He is recorded here in 1891 with his father Anders Christenson!
Thanks again for your great assistance!
Very sincerely yours, |
Lars E. Oyane |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 24/04/2021 : 15:19:08
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Well, I agree that there were at least 2 Jacob Andersons in the vicinity of Milnor N.D. and that the earlier one was Swedish and the more recent one was Norwegian.
Is there a dodsfallsprotokol for Anders Christenson? Sometimes, just sometimes they name all potential legatees or where they were located if alive. |
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