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jwiborg
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Posted - 19/02/2022 : 01:53:14
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quote: Originally posted by plnd94
Ole's wife in 1865 is Britha Halstensdatter . Would she be mother of Eli?
Yes. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N4GT-VHW Note that Eli is the mother to child a-h, incl Kari Elisabet Seim. The mother to child i-m is Brynjulvs 2nd wife Gjertrud Håvardsdatter.
Austlandet means "Eastern country" and is the yellow circle in the map, as an opposite to Vestlandet, "Western country" which is the region Eidfjord (red dot) is in. That he was found there by people from Legreid farm in Eidfjord makes me very surprised. In 1805 people did not travel from west to east like that... very strange indead...
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 19/02/2022 : 09:54:57
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I have played a little with the idea of who could have travelled to the eastern part of Norway and found this infant wrapped in silk. Looking at the 1801-census, there are about 30 adult males living under the Lægreid farm. Most of them are farmers or cotters. It's possible they could have traveled to a wedding, or to a market to sell apples. The fruit from the region is recognized as the best in Norway. But most interesting are the two soldiers living there. They are likely to travel over longer distances. One will probably not find an answer to this, but interesting to play a little with the possibilities...
Rikolf Hansen (1785) Lægrejd Øvre, son Endre Gautesen (1779) Lægrejd Øvre, son Halstejn Hendrichsen (1788) Lægrejd Øvre, son Sjur Haagenssen (1788) Lægrejd Nedre, son Haldor Halgjærssen (1774) Lægrejd Nedre, soldier, garrison in Bergen Askaut Omundssen (1772) Lægrejd Øvre, national soldier Lars Olssen (1778) Lægrejd Øvre, servant SølfæstSølfæstsen (1778) Lægrejd Øvre, servant Arne Heljesen (1768) Lægrejd Øvre, servant Christopher Hanssen (1775) Lægrejd Nedre, servant Hans Bertelsen (1775) Lægrejd Nedre, servant Tosten Anderssen (1730) Lægrejd Øvre, farmer Hans Olssen (1743) Lægrejd Øvre, farmer Asbjørn Adamssen (1768) Lægrejd Øvre, farmer Sølfæst Svendsen (1728) Lægrejd Øvre, farmer Lars Omundssen (1768) Lægrejd Øvre, farmer Ole Hanssen (1772) Lægrejd Øvre, farmer Anders Tostenssen (1762) Lægrejd Øvre, farmer Halstejn Pederssen (1750) Lægrejd Øvre, farmer Christopher Magnussen (1735) Lægrejd Øvre, farmer Hendrich Magnussen (1745) Lægrejd Øvre, farmer Sjur Torbjørnssen (1723) Lægrejd Øvre, farmer Magnus Christophersen (1762) Lægrejd Øvre, farmer Gaute Endressen (1743) Lægrejd Øvre, farmer Hans Tostenssen (1740) Lægrejd Øvre, farmer Ole Omundsen (1754) Lægrejd Øvre, farmer Anved Tostensen (1772) Lægrejd Øvre, farmer Torbjørn Olssen (1767) Lægrejd Øvre, farmer Haagen Sjurssen (1758) Lægrejd Nedre, farmer Halgjær Haldorsen (1733) Lægrejd Nedre, farmer Conrad Sjurssen (1761) Lægrejd Nedre, farmer |
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plnd94
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Posted - 20/02/2022 : 02:28:01
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Very strange indeed. Sounds a little like Moses being found as a infant. Interesting possibilities of who may have traveled that far.
You showed 1865 Census where Olav Samsonsen 7 living with single mother Brita 35. Found a marriage of Samson Olsen to Britha Torbjornsdr 31 Oct 1861 at Starndebarm, Hordaland. Family Search attached to Samson Olson MX3B-MQK and Britha MX3B-M7S. Could this be parents of our Olav Samsonsen born 1859 ? |
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jwiborg
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jkmarler
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plnd94
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Posted - 20/02/2022 : 17:32:35
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Thanks for clarification. Good lesson - never make assumptions based on uncommon names. Lots of people have uncommon names and may get together.
Trouble with the law - too many illegitimate children? Was this 1864?
Who is this Samson Olsen Tverberg - finding a lot of possibilities?
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 20/02/2022 : 17:48:03
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The Penal Code Ch.18 § 25 from 1842 which was the cause for Samson's 15 days on bread & water: "A man, who has made 3 different women pregnant, without having been married to any of them, is punished with imprisonment." |
Edited by - jwiborg on 20/02/2022 17:49:30 |
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plnd94
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Posted - 20/02/2022 : 18:19:04
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3 strikes, you're out. If this was 1864, looks like he didn't reform as you found another illegitimate child in 1867.
Anything known about this Samson's parentage or possible marriage? |
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
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Posted - 20/02/2022 : 19:44:23
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quote: Originally posted by jwiborg
The Penal Code Ch.18 § 25 from 1842 which was the cause for Samson's 15 days on bread & water: "A man, who has made 3 different women pregnant, without having been married to any of them, is punished with imprisonment."
So the adjudication was in 1864 that means there is one more baby before that we haven't surfaced yet.
Here is Samson's father Ole Samsons Tverberg's death: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/267/pg00000000635847 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 20/02/2022 : 20:08:15
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quote: Originally posted by plnd94
3 strikes, you're out. If this was 1864, looks like he didn't reform as you found another illegitimate child in 1867.
Anything known about this Samson's parentage or possible marriage?
No harm, no foul. The baby was baptized the same day the parents married 14 Nov.
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plnd94
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Posted - 20/02/2022 : 21:22:55
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Takes amazing search skills to find all this good stuff!
In 1867, looks like Samson dodged the bullet and stayed out of prison.
On the 1892 marriage, looks like the bride is a lot younger born 1863, |
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jkmarler
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plnd94
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Posted - 21/02/2022 : 02:36:01
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1900 - son Knut and daughter Sunneva - are these children of his wife Elen? |
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jkmarler
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