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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 07/02/2023 : 02:43:31
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The four names in the newspaper are
Marie Evensen. Erika Eriksen , f. Evensen.
Oscar Eriksen. Else Marie
And the names on the gravestone would appear to be
Marie Evensen, Erik Eriksen, Erika Eriksen, Oscar Eriksen.
Is that how you see it? |
Edited by - AntonH on 07/02/2023 02:51:42 |
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dylankylesimon
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Posted - 07/02/2023 : 02:48:59
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Originally posted by AntonH
Question for you Dylan,
So the writing came directly from the newspaper article
"Min inderlig kjære mand, min snille far, svigerfar og bedstefar
fhv. baneform.
Ole Evensen
døde fredfuldt. 30. august 1924, 78 aar gammel
Vikersund, 2. septbr. 1924
Marie Evensen. Erika Eriksen , f. Evensen.
Oscar Eriksen. Else Marie.
Begravelsen foregaar fra hjemmet til Heggen kirke tirsdag 9. septbr. kl. 3. Samles kl 12.
Bekjendtgjøres kun paa denne maate."
Yes, the death notice:
https://www.nb.no/items/9dfb3d2ebcf241f0e09a4c2f2a94c165?page=3&searchText=%22Else%20Marie%22
I read the gravestone as the following:
https://slektogdata.no/gravminner/grav/7637d130-65d9-49c2-9008-d09ed58c14f6
Ole Evensen
16 Sep 1846 - 30 Aug 1924
Anne Marie Evensen
30 Jul 1854 - 6 Mar 1935
Erik Eriksen
6 May 1923 - 3 Mar 1943
Erikka Eriksen
18 Jul 1893 - 25 Aug 1968
Oskar Eriksen
10 Jul 1891 - 26 Jul 1971
Anne's birth might say 23 Jul 1854 on the stone. Her marriage entry says 3 Jul 1854. The death entry above lists 30 July 1854. |
Edited by - dylankylesimon on 07/02/2023 03:06:07 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/02/2023 : 03:12:48
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Some of what is carved on the headstone if not the whole headstone must have been carved much after the death of Ole Evensen. The death dates of all of the people come after and in some cases much after the death of Ole. So could we just be looking at a case where the person charged with carving the stone or getting the carving done botching up one of the names and dates. That is Eric is "Else and has the right birth date but is somehow confused with an Erik Eriksen(Berglund).
That does not yet explain who Erik Eriksen(Berglund) is? |
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dylankylesimon
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Posted - 07/02/2023 : 03:25:36
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Originally posted by AntonH
Some of what is carved on the headstone if not the whole headstone must have been carved much after the death of Ole Evensen. The death dates of all of the people come after and in some cases much after the death of Ole. So could we just be looking at a case where the person charged with carving the stone or getting the carving done botching up one of the names and dates. That is Eric is "Else and has the right birth date but is somehow confused with an Erik Eriksen(Berglund).
That does not yet explain who Erik Eriksen(Berglund) is?
I think that's a good theory as well! |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/02/2023 : 04:24:17
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Originally posted by dylankylesimon
quote:
Originally posted by AntonH
Some of what is carved on the headstone if not the whole headstone must have been carved much after the death of Ole Evensen. The death dates of all of the people come after and in some cases much after the death of Ole. So could we just be looking at a case where the person charged with carving the stone or getting the carving done botching up one of the names and dates. That is Eric is "Else and has the right birth date but is somehow confused with an Erik Eriksen(Berglund).
That does not yet explain who Erik Eriksen(Berglund) is?
I think that's a good theory as well!
That death record of Erik Eriksen is not available except as a transcribed record. It might be nice to know if there is more information or other information of a medical nature on the record. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/02/2023 : 04:33:41
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That death record of Erik Eriksen is not available except as a transcribed record. It might be nice to know if there is more information or other information of a medical nature on the record.
Or could a newspaper clipping be found from 1943 on this Erik. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 07/02/2023 : 05:12:51
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Originally posted by AntonH
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That death record of Erik Eriksen is not available except as a transcribed record. It might be nice to know if there is more information or other information of a medical nature on the record.
Or could a newspaper clipping be found from 1943 on this Erik.
I've looked but so far nothing. |
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dylankylesimon
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jkmarler
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ToreL
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AntonH
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AntonH
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jkmarler
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Posted - 07/02/2023 : 21:36:14
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Originally posted by AntonH
It is a little odd that the two parish books, Fødselsregister nr. I 1, 1916-1923, s. 183
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051025051065
And Klokkerbok nr. I 12, 1923-1933, s. 4
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/56/64509/2
Seem to have a totally different list of baptisms.
Thanks.
Well the order of the births seems different. Here is Gerd Evelyn # 20:
Modum kirkebøker, SAKO/A-234/G/Ga/L0012: Parish register (copy) no. I 12, 1923-1933, p. 6
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20050203010446
And here she is # 5
Modum kirkebøker, SAKO/A-234/J/Ja/L0001: Fødselsregister nr. I 1, 1916-1923, s. 183
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051025051065
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ToreL
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Posted - 07/02/2023 : 22:55:31
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| During the years 1916-1982 the Norwegian State Church had the task of registering all births in Norway. This came in addition to the list of baptisms that the church had already been keeping for centuries. During these decades the church kept two parallel lists, one (ideally) listing all births, with date of birth and date of notification, and one list of baptisms, with date of birth and date of baptism. After 1982, the task of keeping the Fødselsregister was taken over by secular branches of the state. Prior to 1916, one sometimes finds lists of "children of dissenters" in the church books proper, but prior to 1916 I don't believe there was the same kind of "double book keeping" evidenced above. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 07/02/2023 : 23:34:17
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Not only are the order of births different but the dates for the baptism are different? Same thing was noticed for Else.
Gurd Evelyn #20
born Dec 24 and baptized March 3
Gurd Evelyn # 5
born Dec 24 and baptized Jan 12.
So it may be that the same children are covered but the baptism dates can differ greatly.
Eric Nr 1 in one list is baptized Jan 1 having been born Sep 29
and in the other book baptized Oct 2 having been born Sep 29.
Very odd indeed |
Edited by - AntonH on 07/02/2023 23:42:54 |
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Else Marie / Erik Eriksen
