Myrtle R. Anderson in the U.S., Newspapers.com™ Obituary Index, 1800s-current Name Myrtle R. Anderson Gender Female Death Age 82 Birth Date 24 May 1892 Birth Place St. Paul, Minn. Residence Place Fort Worth, Tex. Death Date Abt 1975 Death Place Texas Obituary Date 23 May 1975 Obituary Place Butte, Montana, USA Newspaper Title The Montana Standard Spouse David Child June Rabell
Myrtle Ruth Anderson in the Texas, U.S., Death Certificates, 1903-1982 Name Myrtle Ruth Anderson [Myrtle Ruth Johnson] Gender Female Race White Death Age 82 Birth Date 24 May 1892 Birth Place Saint Paul, Minnesota Residence Date Abt 1975 Residence Place Fort Worth, Tarrant, Texas, USA Death Date 22 May 1975 Death Place Fort Worth, Tarrant, Texas, USA Father Ferdinand Johnson Certificate Number 38073
Candiate for Olaf Ferdinand Ottesen:. Living in Butte, Montana in 1910. With wife and daughter Hazel.
Frederic Johnson in the 1910 United States Federal Census Name Frederic Johnson [Frederson Johnson] [Mederson Johnson] Age in 1910 47 Birth Date 1863 [1863] Birthplace Sweden Home in 1910 Butte Ward 8, Silver Bow, Montana, USA Street W Phocpory House Number 603 Race White Gender Male Immigration Year 1887 Relation to Head of House Head Marital Status Married Spouse's Name Anna Johnson Father's Birthplace Sweden Mother's Birthplace Sweden Native Tongue English Occupation Iron Worker Industry Carriage Work Employer, Employee or Other Wage Earner Home Owned or Rented Own Home Free or Mortgaged Free Farm or House House Naturalization Status Naturalized Able to read Yes Able to Write Yes Years Married 8 Out of Work N Number of Weeks Out of Work 0 Neighbors View others on page Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Frederic Johnson 47 Head Anna Johnson 44 Wife Hazel L Johnson 7 Daughter Lillian E Johnson 5 Daughter Roy F Larson 13 Nephew
quote: So given that our Ferdinand was assumedly born on 22 Oct 1863 according to Sweden, Indexed Birth Records, I assume that we may have another error here?
The more I dig into the life of the 2nd Brother Olaf Ferdinand Ottesen, the more I think he is not the same man as died 11 Apr 1929 in Sterling, Whiteside, Illinois, USA. What gives me pause is the mention of the brother Martin coming to the funeral in Chicago.
That man is Eric Ferdinand Johnson married to Anna, with children Myrtel, Hazel and Lillian. He lived in Butte Montana in 1910, part of 1920 and then his wife and some children lived in Chicago in 1930.
Eric Ferdinand Johnson in the Montana, U.S., County Births and Deaths, 1830-2011 Name Eric Ferdinand Johnson Gender Male Spouse Anna Lovisa Larson Child Hazel Lovisa Johnson Certificate Number 40124
This record mentions Johan Ludvig Ottesen, his wife, and Marius Petter in 1897, but I am not quite sure what this record is used for or what it means? Third column maybe says that the Father is dead?
Records about people getting service due to poverty. Yes, shoemaker apprentice Johan ludvig Ottesen is dead and son Marius Petter is placed as a pleiebarn on a farm owned by Haakon Myggedal Jellum in Nes in Romerike
This must be Martin in 1900 Census, living in Dunn County Wisconsin. Although it says that Helmar was born in Norway but I do not know if that makes any sense.
Martin Johnson Census • United States Census, 1900
1905 Wisconsin Census shows Helmar or Elmer being born in Minnesota. Makes more sense since there is a marriage record for Martin and Elsie Bnesnen in Minnesota.
Martin Johnson in the Web: Minnesota, U.S., Marriages from the Minnesota Official Marriage System, 1850-2019\\ Name Martin Johnson Marriage Date 14 Nov 1891 Marriage Place St. Louis, Minnesota, USA Spouse Elise Bensen Certificate Number F-280
Martin Johnson in the U.S., Newspapers.com™ Obituary Index, 1800s-current Name Martin Johnson Gender Male Death Age 83 Birth Date Feb 1869 Birth Place Greberstadt, Sweden Residence Place Menomonie Death Date 27 Jan 1952 Death Place Menornonie Obituary Date 29 Jan 1952 Obituary Place Eau Claire, Wisconsin, USA Newspaper Title Leader-Telegram Child Elmer Hudson John Conrad Buford Frye L. C. Ruegstact E. Alfred Los Angeles William
Otto Ludvig Ottesen birth /baptism # 212 Grønland prestekontor Kirkebøker, SAO/A-10848/F/Fa/L0009: Ministerialbok nr. 9, 1888-1893, s. 190 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060929020638
Daughter Julie Josefine Ottesen marries # 7: Vaterland prestekontor Kirkebøker, SAO/A-10880/F/Fa/L0002: Ministerialbok nr. 2, 1907-1921, s. 1 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060213020687
#65 birth baptism Julie Josefine Ottesen: Fredrikstad domkirkes prestekontor Kirkebøker, SAO/A-10906/F/Fa/L0001: Ministerialbok nr. 1, 1871-1878, s. 132 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060927070378
In both of these records her father is listed as sailor Otto Ludvig Ottesen and deceased at her marriage.
#248 Julie Josefines son Bjorn birth / baptism: Petrus prestekontor Kirkebøker, SAO/A-10872/F/Fa/L0008: Ministerialbok nr. 8, 1899-1909, s. 373 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060214040370
Yes, Anton, this is what I also concluded, glad you dug a little deeper and confirmed. I'd say the only thing confirmed thus far is that Olof Ferdinand Ottoson (Ottesen) emigrated or departed to America on 12 September 1884. I also know that Martin appears to have taken on the name Johnson, however his brother Malcolm chose the name Blom. Therefore, I personally wouldn't place that much weight on that name. I am also fairly certain about Martin and Elise of it being correct.
It appears there are a lot of errors in the folklore that was passed on to my 5th cousin.
Interesting Jackie, my 5th cousin now sent me an email saying that Johan Ludvig was still alive in 1905 given Peter Ottesen's marriage record:
However, given your record, he is dead by 1907? So the previous record in 1897 must be an error?
She also said that he was a journeyman shoemaker, so she thinks it is strange that he would go on a boat as a sailor with his wife and children at home; also given that his youngest son was born in 1890.
Here is also the death record of his Wife Emilie Ottesen f. Larsen on 18 Apr 1924. Not sure what it says in the notes.
Okay so who is Otto Ludvig Ottesen a sailor the father of Julie Josefine?
Marriage # 47 matros Ludvig Ottosen and Emilie Larsd Fredrikstad domkirkes prestekontor Kirkebøker, SAO/A-10906/F/Fa/L0001: Ministerialbok nr. 1, 1871-1878, s. 296 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060927070487
Birthdate and place matches Johan Ludvig Ottosen provided at beginning.
And just because there is no notation on Petter's marriage that his father is dead doesn't mean that he isn't.
Well, as you may know, Julie's brother is called Otto Ludvig Ottesen, I assume someone got something confused. She may never know that his first name was Johan, but I am not sure.
But I agree, so then as of now, he died between 1891 and 1900?
with a large group of men traveling to San Francisco
Alfred Albarson in the Canada, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 Name Alfred Albarson Gender Male Arrival Age 26 Birth Year abt 1862 Departure Port Glasgow, Scotland; Londonderry, Ireland Arrival Date 30 Apr 1888 Arrival Port Quebec, Quebec, Canada Vessel Norwegian
MACHINERY OF ATLANTIC STEAMSHIPS - This article is a collage of edited cutaways from contemporary sources. It focuses on the development of the machinery used in the transatlantic steamships up till about 1910.
Death of Johan Ludvig, Alfred and Malkom Ottoson?
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