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waukegan
Junior member
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 Posted - 02/04/2008 : 21:27:04
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Yes I have tryed the map, of course! I'm most interested in finding all I can.
However, my interest is more in where Ludvig was located during 1895-6, and the same for Petra (on the Austad farm) in 1895-6. Seeing how close geographically they would have been for a "relationship". This of course for Ludvig must have been somewhere in Oslo, as he was an editor when his son Christian was born in Fredrikstad. Or maybe, he wasn't an editor at the Orebladet in 1895-6. Maybe in Fredrikstad? Still hoping to see how close these two locations would have been
Was Johnsaeter connected in meaning to any type of "refugee" as in the structure off the farm for shepherds?
Thanks again Einar.
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Edited by - waukegan on 03/04/2008 09:21:08 |
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waukegan
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 03/04/2008 : 09:18:44
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(I meant to say refuge, on that last post)!
Got the map working fine. Pulled up Bilet for Christian Johnsaeter, and Austad for his mother Petra. Any ideas for Ludvig in 1896 and his location? Would the distance be about 2 hrs. by car from Bilet to Austad
 thanks again
KAnnie
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 03/04/2008 : 10:43:57
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You can use the map http://www.1881.no/Map/ to plan a driving route - use Ruteplanlegger (Route planner) and plot in Fra (From) e.g. Bilet and Til (To) e.g. Austad? - then click Beregn rute (Calculate route)
you will then get choices for Fra - Velg (Choose) Bilett (Gårdsbruk), Fredrikstad, Østfold - next choice will be for Til - if you do not see the Austad you want click on Vis fler (Show more) until you find your destination. Once you have made your choice by clicking on Velg the route will turn up - go down on the listing and at the bottom you will have a time estimate.
(But they did not travel by car at the time you are interested in!) |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 03/04/2008 : 11:06:10
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Regarding Johnsæter I really don't know much at this time - it was definitely not any type of refuge - a sæter or seter was just a place with houses that were normally used when sheep or cattle was moved from the farm to another pasture - the grass did not grow fast enough on the farm or it was neccessary to let it grow so it could be collected and dried for winter fodder.
Ludvigs whereabouts in 1895-1896 is difficult to find - since he was called editor I assume he was situated somewhere in Kristiania (Oslo) - maybe Petra also was in Oslo or maybe Ludvig was travelling to get news for the paper - I really have no idea. |
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waukegan
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 03/04/2008 : 18:42:40
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The map is great Einar! Thanks so much for your extensive help!!
Good ideas on Ludvig and Petra--course we don't know for sure how they got connected, but good to place him in Oslo. I should have realized that!
Concerning the Saetre. It was a home (somewhat), away from home, for a time, correct? If that is correct, has got me to thinking about their choice of name for him...being fostered out and all. Any thoughts from you on that?
Kind Regards to you!!
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 03/04/2008 : 19:46:07
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| I have not found any existing farm by the name Johnsæter today, but since Petras mother was born on søndre? Sætre it could have been that it was once called Johnsæter. (very uncertain but maybe - - ) I would not know the reasoning behind his name, but it was quite common to use name from the parents, grandparents etc. - he got the name of his father and grandfather - Johnsæter would then have some relation to his grandmother. |
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waukegan
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 04/04/2008 : 17:58:14
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Thanks Einar for that sound description concerning my g.f.'s
name.
OK, here I go on a "difficult trail", I know! How do I search for decendants of;
Christian Hansen b.1876-Petra's brother
Helga Hansen-Petra's sister
Hilde Hansen-Petra's sister
OR
Gudrun Larsen-Ludvig's daughter
Astrid Larsen-Ludvig's daughter
I am so hopeful of finding any distant relatives in Norway, or even possibly one or more of them emmigrated to the USA. (although I'm doubtful of that prospect)
Advice is good. Any more help in this quest is most appreciated as usual! I am so grateful to you and your hard work these past many weeks!
Kind Regards,
KAnnie
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 04/04/2008 : 22:19:49
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Found some more children,
Otto Kristofer born Nov 9 1878, see between 31 and 32 here
Marthe Wilhelma born Jan 5 1872, see #60
Hilde Bertha born Sept 24 1874, see #41
Have not found a trace of the ones who were not at Austad in 1900.
If you look again at Helga Mathildes birth record you will see that Marthea Halvorsdatter is written Martea Jonsæter! |
Einar |
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waukegan
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 05/04/2008 : 00:21:35
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More children...can't go wrong with that! Otto's record came up a different page. In the 100's-- there wasn't a # 31 or 32. (and I didn't see an Otto listed)
Hilde Bertha's page didn't come in at all. Everything else worked out fine!!
YES. Isn't that great! My g.f.'s grandmother's name listed as Jonsaetre!!!! That's a hit now isn't it!
This is all just so wonderful to find. 
Please help with those pages mentioned that didn't come thru!
Regards,
KAnnie
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/04/2008 : 20:30:18
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| Now it works, I have had problems with this before, need to check in the future I guess. |
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waukegan
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 11/04/2008 : 06:19:50
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Should I be of the thought, concerning my Hansen family members--some (or all) emmigrated to the USA?
I was reflecting on your comment of not finding a trace of those not in the 1900 Census.
Either way...how do I look for them in the USA?
How do I seek information of their possible emmigration?
Thanks!
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waukegan
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 07/06/2016 : 00:39:33
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Greetings!
Been 8 years now since my last correspondence with you.
Hope all's well!
My Mother has now gone on, so any info is now -- for myself & my sisters. OH,
and my 92 year old Auntie!
I have a married name for Petra Hansen (my Gr.Grandmother)
and even, another first name! Similar to the first however.
and it is Petia Johnson!
All else. remains the same. (to my understanding)
Shall we give it another look-see! Hope so.
Many thanks!!
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waukegan
Junior member
USA
43 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2016 : 00:14:44
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So - this Petra Hansen, now Petia Johnson, according to my Grandfather's Gravesite info in Beach Park, Il.
dated in 1936.3 .feb.
Petra or Petia was born August 9th, 1868 in
Solor, Hedmark.
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 08/06/2016 : 00:38:20
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If today's date and place you just given for Petra's birth is information from a source previously unmentioned in these pages and that you've independently found - then you have a match to the information given on an earlier page of this thread and information for her parentage already. Just look at the earlier pages and pull out the info that was given you.
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waukegan
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 08/06/2016 : 02:14:24
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yes, sorry. but no. not new info.but for the name change, which i'm presuming is her married name ... as opposed to the name Hansen.
Was in hopes of your finding her and if she had more children ? |
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Family of Ludvig Larsen, Petra Hansen, Bilet
