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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 30/10/2010 : 23:08:32
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Confirmations from Kaares posting on Kollisland (Kolsland):
"1767 Mantall. Kongen eier. To familier. Til sammen 15 personer. Jens Olsen og kone Ester Jansdatter: barn Ole, Dorthea og Brynille. Disse hadde opphold her: Ole Nilsen, Maren Olsdatter, Peder Olsen. Rasmus Jonsen og kone Larsdatter: barn Lars Jonsen og tjenestefolkene Andreas Olsen, Lauritza Nilsdatter og Karen Clemetsdatter."
Additional find to the baptismal record: Magdalenas mother was Ester Jansdatter.
Witnesses at the baptism living at Kollisland: Rasmus Jonsen and his wife Kirsten Larsdatter, Karen Clemetsdatter.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 31/10/2010 : 00:18:08
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Lars was 14 years old in 1801, his parents were Niels Engelbregtsen (precentor) and Ane Helene Erichsdatter
- correction, see 2nd baptism in left column on right page, Lars was baptised 4th Sunday after Easter (May 6) 1787. His mother was Ane Larsdatter - Niels Engelbretsens first wife.
Teacher Niels Ingebrichtsen and Ane Larsdatter were married Oct 5 1783, see 3rd couple on left page.
Ane Larsdatter 44 years old died March 10 1798.
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Edited by - eibache on 31/10/2010 00:44:18 |
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leslievaughn
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 31/10/2010 : 04:15:10
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Einer
I believe that you are sent by God to help me find this family of mine. I don't know when I have ever been a recipient of such tremendous effort. I wish I could reciprocate. If you have any research needs for England, Canada or the USA, let me know.
I'll tell you what I know about this family so you can know how much you are helping me. Johann Andersen who died in 1873 and his brother Nils are the brothers of my great great grandfathr Lars Andersen. Lars married Anna Ingeborg Aas in Talvik and they had at least one child there who died. Then they moved to the US about 1870 with Anna's parents Lorents Aas and Louisa Iverson. In 1900 Anna is said to have given birth to 14 children and 7 were living in 1900. I have identified 9 of their childen--all but the 1st one born in the USA. The family was in Kansas living next door to Lorents and Louisa in 1875 and 1880 and 1885. They all moved to Barron County Wisconsin. In 1914 Lars stated he had been in Barron County for 26 years. Most of their children were born in Wisconsin. As their children married, they aged and eventually moved to Duluth Minnesota to live with one of their married daughters. Lars died in Duluth and Anna died in Minneapolis. They both died in 1931, Lars died in October just 2 and 1/2 weeks after Anna. Lorents and Louisa Aas died in Barron county. Louisa died 6 weeks after Lorents In 1900 Louisa said she had given birth to 6 children and 4 were living. I have only been able to identify Anna. There are reference to adults in Barron County whose last name is Aas and I imagine that they are some how related and probably the sons of Lorents and Louisa but thus far I have not proven that.
Lars and Anna oldest surviving child was Julia Anderson born in Kansas. She was my father's paternal grandmother and I remember that he spoke of her when I was a child. She died in 1937 before I was born. I have a picture of Julia but not of any other member of this family.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 31/10/2010 : 06:02:20
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Lorents Gunerius Aas with wife and Lars Andersen with wife moved out of Talvik 1869 to immigrate to Amerika, see #3&4 in far right column.
Lorents Aas, wife and daughter in 1865.
Ingeborg Anna was born July 12 1850, see #62.
Lorents Gunerius Aas was born Nov 19 1829, see #20. His parents were Jens Larsen Aas and Ingebor Anna.
Jens Larsen Aas and Ingebor Anna Johnsdatter were married Dec 29 1829 (after Lorents Gunerius was born), see #8. Jens father was Lars Larsen, Slotsveet and Ingebor Annas father was John Johnsen, Gissedahl.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 31/10/2010 : 08:14:42
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Lars Hendrik Andersen and Ingeborg Anna Lorentsdatter were married Dec 26 1866, see #12.
Lars Henriks baptismal record is #30.
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Edited by - eibache on 31/10/2010 08:39:43 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 31/10/2010 : 15:24:26
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Lorents Gunerius Aas (21) and Lovise S. Iversdatter (26) were married Oct 3 1850, see #22. (Almost 3 months after Ingeborg Annas birth).
Lovises father was Iver Risberg and she was born appr 1824 in Skjervøy.
See Ivar Riisberg and Gunild Maria Olsdatter baptized Karen Kirstina June 1 1824, see #28.
In the 1865 census Gunild M. Olsdatter is listed as the wifes (Lovise S.) mother. Karen Kirstina is Lovise s. sister then!
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Edited by - eibache on 31/10/2010 23:18:56 |
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leslievaughn
Junior member
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Posted - 31/10/2010 : 22:45:42
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Einar
this is absolutely incredible.
About Lovise Iversen: Her death record in the US shows her father was Lars Iversen and her mother was Gunilde Iverson. But we all know that the informant on a death record can be very wrong. The death record also shows that she was about 80 years old. In the death record it says the birth date is unknown and place is just Norway. She died in 1901.
In the transcript of the 1865 census, she is age 26 born in Tromso. In the USA 1900 census record she said she was born March 1822. I am thinking that Karen is Lovisa's younger sister.
Thanks again so much for all you have done.
I have a question about the name AAS. Is that a farm name? I have heard a very little about the farm and the naming system. Everyone else seems to be using the patronymics except the AAS family. If the patronymics are not used, then the farm name is used. Am I correct with that statment?
Thanks again.
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leslievaughn
Junior member
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Posted - 31/10/2010 : 23:02:10
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Einar
I found Lovise's birth record. I don't know how to make the links like you do, but here it is:
sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9731&idx_id=9731&uid=ny&idx_side=-13
Her entry is on the right #15.
I cannot read all of the entry, but I think her name is Lovise Lerene Ivarsdatter whose parents are Ivar Risburg and Gunilde Maria Olesdatter
I cannot read the dates but it is in 1822.
Thank you again so much for all you have done.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 31/10/2010 : 23:28:39
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Good find!
The baptismal record reads Lovise Severinne Ivarsdatter, born at Molvigen March 20 1822, baptized in church April 7. Parents Ivar Risberg, Molvigen and Gunild Maria Olsdatter.
Aas and Risberg are farm names from Nord-Trøndelag.
Lorents Gunerius Aas should actually have been Lorents Gunerius Jensen, Aas since his father was Jens Larsen, Aas.
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Edited by - eibache on 31/10/2010 23:33:56 |
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leslievaughn
Junior member
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Posted - 01/11/2010 : 00:59:58
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You gave me some information about Lars Neilsen and his wife Anne Margarete Thomasdatter. They were the parents of 7 children that you gave me. Based on the death information you gave me, Lars was born about 1787. I find the following: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9750&idx_id=9750&uid=ny&idx_side=-35 on the 2nd entry on the right side.
Again my knowledge of the language and terminology and the handwriting is very poor. I see that there is a Lars who is the son of Neils Ingebriictsen and Ane Larsdatter. Am I reading this correctly? Could this possibly be the husband of Anne Margarete Thomasdatter?
Thanks
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 01/11/2010 : 06:35:24
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Yes, that's the one. See my posting of 31/10/2010.
This would be confirmed by the note in the 1801 census where the father was "klokker" (precentor) and this baptismal record reads:
4. Søndag efte Paaske (= May 6)
Døbte Klokker Niels Ingebrichtsens og Ane Lars dtrs Drengebarn Lars
(Baptized precentor Niels Ingebrichtsen and Ane Larsdatters boy Lars)
Ane Larsdatter was baptized April 7 1754, see 2nd underlined name (Ane) on left page. Her parents were Lars Tostensen and Ane Thomesdatter.
In the 1801 census for Niels Engelbretsen (= Ingebrichtsen) you find Ane Margrethe Jacobsdatter, Dere Steddatter (Their stepdaughter) - she is the daughter born out of wedlock by Niels first wife Ane Larsdatter, see 3rd record in far left column.
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leslievaughn
Junior member
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Posted - 05/11/2010 : 18:28:35
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On Oct 31, Einar posted a bit about immigration as follows:
Lorents Gunerius Aas with wife and Lars Andersen with wife moved out of Talvik 1869 to immigrate to Amerika, see #3&4 in far right column.
It looks like there are four entries for the same date. Lars Andersen is my great great grandfather and Lorents Aas is his father-in-law. They were traveling with their wives. There are two other entries for that date. My questions: What is the date and who are the other 2. I think I am reading that they are Hans Nicholas Hildebrand and his wife and 4 children and Hans is age 37 and Ole Hansen Talvik who is age 16. I don't know if I am reading this correctly. I am trying to figure out if they MIGHT be related to Lorents and/or to Lars.
Also am I correct in reading the entries for Lorents and Lars that their wives came with them, but no children?
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/11/2010 : 19:12:18
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The first entry for that date reads "Hans Nikolai Kjelmand". You can find his family in the 1865 census just a few years earlier.
Ole Hansen might be trickier to find as the name is common. He'll be about 4 years earlier in the 1865 census and should still be living at home with his parent(s). At the age of 16 he may have already moved out on his own to be on Talvik farm. |
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leslievaughn
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Posted - 05/11/2010 : 19:50:02
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Thanks for the information on Hans. As you can tell, I have a great deal of difficulty reading these records.
Can someone read the date of emigration?
Thanks
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/11/2010 : 22:15:16
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Date, given is July 20, was when they were obtaining the attestation (CV) to show the authorities when emigrating.
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Gender of child?
