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Lukeduk1980
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 Posted - 31/08/2011 : 07:25:30
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Good news, I just got work I will receive the actual copy of the marriage certificate next week. I will have it scanned and posted for you guys as soon as I get it.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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7790 Posts |
Posted - 31/08/2011 : 07:41:54
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Hi,
Here are Sime burials at Utica Lutheran Church cemetery on the Crawford County, Wisconsin page of www.usgenweb.com:
Sime,Inga 1905---1911
Anna 1885---1872
Chris E. 1940---1956
Jens R. 1909---1962
Anna B. 1854---1942
Tosten T. 1855---1949
Kermit Tosten 1918---1966,Tech 5, 14th Armored Div; WWII
Bertha 1886---
Adolph T. 1892---
Sally Lee 1945---1945,infant
Daniel H. 1951---1969
Anna 1827---1891
Alice 1927---1971
Herman JR 1927---
Herman 1887---1976
Grace 1898---
Ole T. 1838---1923
Brita O. 1841---1921
Albert N. 1876---1908
Thomas 1864---1893
Anna (Anderson) 1866---1911
Karl Alaus O. 1878---1896
Anna A. 1872---1899
Christ R. 1839---1911
Ingebore 1840---1897
Ingegriet (Jensen) died 1882
John O. 1869---1923
Anna J. J. 1832---1890
Christ J. 1859---1948
Donald 1911---1991,son of Peter J.
Torina 1870---1953
Peter J. ,no dates
Several Anna s there...and cousin Gunder Enerson and Andrew Jackson and this:
Anderson, Anna 1836---1929
I think the confirmation record of Anna Andersdatter posted previously gave her vaccination date as in 1836, perhaps.... Since the text is arranged alphabetically and not how the stones lay, perhaps a stone with her "maiden" name was read like that and because the sort took it out of context, might lead to another interpretation.. Somebody on the ground perhaps can take a look sometime.
Jackie M.
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Lukeduk1980
Medium member
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185 Posts |
Posted - 31/08/2011 : 16:00:51
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Found this on find a grave on Sime...
Find-a-Grave
Doing a search, there are 9 Sime's buried in Crawford County. Most of them in Soldiers Grove Township.
Search results
Lucas |
Edited by - Lukeduk1980 on 31/08/2011 16:08:38 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 31/08/2011 : 16:26:01
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Here from the birth records of Crawford County http://files.usgwarchives.org/wi/crawford/vitals/births/1886-1889-el.txt
Shows two births for a Andrew Jackson one in 1882 for Thomas with wife Anna Syne.
Jackson Arlena 1885-Mar-26 NN Edward Jackson Eva J. Phillips V1-0020
Jackson Male 1884-May-30 Utica Andrew Jackson NN V1-2846
Jackson Stella M. 1888-Aug-25 Prairie du Chien William Jackson Minnie Herold V1-0780
Jackson Thomas 1882-May-08 Utica Andrew Jackson Anna Syne V1-2660
Janck Henry Leo 1886-Sep-13 Prairie du Chien William Janck Rosina Ducharme V1-0121
Jay Catherine 1888-Jan-28 Seneca John Jay Anna Donahoe V1-0741 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 31/08/2011 : 16:30:58
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Hi,
Interesting about the differences between the find-a-grave version and the usgenweb version. In the genweb version there are no stones with full dates. In the find-a-grave version there are only 44 interments....
Lucas you may also want to get the church registers for Utica Lutheran, Rising Sun Lutheran, and West Prairie Lutheran. ALC churches registers were microfilmed in the 1970s and are available for loan through the ELCA archives at www.elca.org. Contact the archivist, Joel Thoreson. The rental is $15 for1 reel for 1 month + postage . The film comes to your door and you may then take to any library which has a microfilm reader / printer. If these church's records have been filmed you might check to get exact dates for the folks and if Anna married Andrew in the church, early pastors, trained in the old ways, often record additional information about partners in marriage + biographical detail when they die and the godparents for the children (and children for whom Anna & Andrew may have stood faddernes) were often relatives & friends. You can also hire the ELCA to search for you but personally I find searching oneself almost always scores the most complete results.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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7790 Posts |
Posted - 31/08/2011 : 16:33:55
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quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40
Here from the birth records of Crawford County http://files.usgwarchives.org/wi/crawford/vitals/births/1886-1889-el.txt
Shows two births for a Andrew Jackson one in 1882 for Thomas with wife Anna Syne.
Jackson Thomas 1882-May-08 Utica Andrew Jackson Anna Syne
Whoa--what do you want to bet that that is Anna Seim?
Jackie M. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 31/08/2011 : 17:19:00
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The Wisconsin State Census for 1895 is not a very informative document but looking at it for Crawford County one can find an Andrew Jackson with 4 male members and 4 female members. What is of some interest is that the next three familes in the list are all Simes. Because of the way the page is folded it is difficult to read the first names but it looks like Ole T Sime with 3 males and 3 females, Something O Sime with one male and Ole D Sime with one male and three females.
The connection between Andrew Jackson and the Sime family is quite apparent now that we are aware of it.
Name: Andrew Jackson
Census Date: 1895
Residence County: Crawford
Residence state: Wisconsin
Locality: Utica
Line: 10
Roll: v226_11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Jackson
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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7790 Posts |
Posted - 31/08/2011 : 17:33:17
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Hi,
In the 1900 census Anna Jackson's answer to the question of how many children born and how many living is: 4 born / 3 living. Of course in 1910 it's 3 born / 3 living...
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 31/08/2011 : 19:53:09
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Just to confirm that the Sime family, especially found in Vernon og Crawford, Wis., originates from Seim in Årdal, Sogn og Fjordane.
T. T. Sime (=Tosten T. Sime) (=Tosten Anderssen)
Born 20 FEB 1855, Seim, Årdal, Sogn & Fjordane
Parents: Anders Tostensen Seim & Anna Svendsdr Natvik
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Lukeduk1980
Medium member
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185 Posts |
Posted - 01/09/2011 : 06:15:55
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Something doesn't make sense here. Looking at the 1880 census record, I see it lists Andrew Jackson living in Utica, Wisconsin with his mother "Matte" but it lists Andrew as widower. This is just a few months before he is married to Anna Anderson. Also, I just noticed that Jakob (His son) is 4 years old at the time. Maybe Andrew was married twice???
Here is the census record...
Lucas |
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Lukeduk1980
Medium member
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185 Posts |
Posted - 01/09/2011 : 06:55:55
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Another clue just came up: Looking a little deeper, I found that Anna Anderson and Andrew Jackson had a few children. The mentioned above (Jacob) was not the child of Anna Anderson. Looking at the notes, I found that Jacob married someone named Lena born about 1887 in Wisconsin. The notes say that it is said by the family that "Lena" was a child of Johannes and Anna Rowe (Raa). . Not sure if that helps.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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7790 Posts |
Posted - 01/09/2011 : 10:19:18
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Hi Lucas,
Yes you should be interested in the "half" relations of both Andrew and Anna.
A Jake Jackson 1875-1951 and Lena Jackson 1886- ____ are buried in the Utica Lutheran Church cemetery.
I didn't see Jacob Jackson in the Crawford County marriages at the usgenweb site but there are 15 Jacob Jackson marriages at the Wisconsin Historical Society site (none recorded in Crawford County)
The church registers of Utica Lutheran may yield information about both Andrew's & Anna's other marriages and children.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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9301 Posts |
Posted - 01/09/2011 : 17:23:17
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Here is Jacob Jackson and Lena in 1920 Census
Name: Jake Jackson
Home in 1920: Utica, Crawford, Wisconsin
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's Name: Lena Jackson
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jake Jackson 44
Lena Jackson 33
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 01/09/2011 : 17:26:57
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Here is Jacob and Lena (know here as Oline) in the 1930 US Census, No children shown in either 1920 or 1930 Census
Name: Jacob Jackson
Home in 1930: Utica, Crawford, Wisconsin
View Map
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Oline Jackson
Race: White
Household Members: Name Age
Jacob Jackson 57
Oline Jackson 43
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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9301 Posts |
Posted - 01/09/2011 : 17:29:36
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Then the best guess as to who is Lena Jackson before her marriage is Olena Rau
Name: Olena Rau
[Olena Raa]
Age in 1910: 22
Estimated Birth Year: 1888
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Name: John J Rau
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Name: Anna Rau
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Home in 1910: Freeman, Crawford, Wisconsin
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Female
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John J Rau 65
Anna Rau 60
Albert Rau 35
John L Rau 30
Henry Rau 28
Martin Rau 26
Olena Rau 22
Tena Rau 21
Aleata Rau 17
Ella Rau 14
Edward Rau 19
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