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Kåarto
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 Posted - 07/02/2012 : 23:53:38
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Ole Tormundsen Vasbø b. 1859 (Teodor b. 1885s father) may also be the same as Ole T. Vasbø or Ole Vasbø.
Teodor b. 1885 may also be the same as Teodor Olsen Vasbø, Teodor O. Vasbø or Teodor Vasbø.
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AntonH
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Kåarto
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Posted - 08/02/2012 : 12:32:33
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Ralph.
There are many names to sort out, after having read through sometimes you will understand it better.
Genealogy somtimes takes time and the Norwegian naming practices is confusing to understand until you get used to it.
I believe it´s the right persons brought up here.
I also found your posting in the LDS records where
Jonas Olsen Vasbø married 1903 in MT. to Else Tjorn
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Kåarto
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Posted - 08/02/2012 : 12:36:29
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Actually Else Tjorn was Else Tønnesdatter Tjørn.
Parents; Farmer Tønnes Helgesen from Tjørn in Bjerkreim and Kari Iversdatter Vasbø.
Else was born on Tjørn feb. 7. 1874, see #14
Confirmated Sept. 30. 1888, beautiful handwriting, see #7
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Kåarto
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Posted - 08/02/2012 : 12:59:35
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Tjørn 1875.
Tønnes Helgesen, partowner in Tjørn and wife Kari Iversdatter, 6 children including Else, a servant boy Johannes, Karis mother Elen Tollefsdatter b. 1813 and a servant maid Ingeborg.
The persons on top are his parents Helge Torkildsen and Berthe Tollefsdatter with 5 of Tønnes siblings and a servant maid Serine, link
Tønnes oldest son Helge Tønnesen b. 1869 inherit Tjørn ( Kjørren in 1900)
Bachelor Tønnes Helgesen Tjørn and Maid Kari Iversdatter Vasbø married in Bjerkreim April 21. 1869, #2 her father was Iver Knudsen (mother Elen Tollefsdatter)
Best men: Jonas Vasbø and Helge Tjørn.
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RDeLange
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Posted - 08/02/2012 : 21:10:00
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| Wow, I/m overwhelmed at the extraordinary effort you have all shown! More than I could have ever anticipated. Such a wealth of information. My cousins, the Vasboes, will be as appreciative as I am. I've just about sorted it out. My biggest problem is trying to figure out surnames. And how to list birthplaces. For instance, I'm trying to figure out how to list Tallete Aslaksdatter. Would I use the surname Odlandssto as her father is listed or Aslaksdatter? As far as the Tollefson, Tollefsen, and others I have decided to go with Vasbo in order to make them easier to sort. Especially since they use the name in the US. And then put the other names in parenthesis. So confusing, but so great to have all the info from their Norwegian connection. Up til a few days ago there was no record at all. I'm sure I still have many errors. Continually updating and correcting. It's an ongoing process which makes it all the more interesting. Many thanks and more to come. |
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RDeLange
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Posted - 08/02/2012 : 21:31:40
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| Looks like only 5 children for Tonnes. Can't figure who the other 3 listed on the census belong to. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 08/02/2012 : 22:46:38
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It is not an easy task to handle the names and name changes. A person can be born on a farm (gård), such as Ramses, given a first name (førenamn) such as Lars. If his father was named Tollef, he would likely be called Lars Tollefson Ramses. Using Tollefsen as his last name (Etternamn). As he got older and married and perhaps moved to another farm to work or to live, his name in church records could change and in the chruch records he could be listed as Lars Tollefsen Frigstad (new farm is the Frigstad farm).
Thus it is valuable if you keep track of the first name and last name since except for alternative spellings they tend not to change but the farm name can change as many as five to six times in a persons lifetime.
If this person emigrated to America he might keep his name as Lars Tollefsen or he might have adopted the name Lars Frigstad or even Lars Ramses. Thus making the tracking of a person even more difficult. |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 08/02/2012 : 23:00:26
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You are welcome Ralph.
Tjørn1875.
Tønnes´s parents had a servant girl, Serine Sigbjørnsdatter and Tønnes had a male servant, Johannes Iversen, and a servant maid Ingeborg Tønnesdatter Holmen.
The census do not tell if they were family members or ordiany employees.
Info reg. Norwegian naming pratices here and here
Tjørn/Kjørren 1900
Tønnes oldest son Helge Tønnesen/Helge Kjørren owns the farm, he was unmarried.
Tønnes was a widower an "Føderaadsmand" , former owner with a legal right on free supplies and lodging on Tjørn for his life.
Three Tønnesen children, probably siblings, Bertine 1880 servant maid, Jonas and Mandius were foster sons, see here
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AntonH
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Kåarto
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Posted - 08/02/2012 : 23:48:36
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You mentioned Odlandssto.
Could it be Americanized from Ådland/Aadland, lots of Ådland farms in Rogaland and Hordaland counties.
Perhaps a shot in the dark; Odlandssto may be the same as Ådlandstova/Aadlandstova from ca 1400 on farm Ådland taken over by the museum 1913 in Stord parish in Hordaland County?
Kjørn/ Kjørren 1910
Tønnes Helgesen still lived, his son Helge married ca 1903 to Ingeborg Nicolaisdatter, 4 children, 3 dau. and a son.
The 3 Tønnesen children (siblings?) from the 1900 census were still on the farm.
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RDeLange
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Posted - 08/02/2012 : 23:53:14
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| Thanks again. got the Helgesen cleared up. Only one more puzzle bothering me. Tormud (Tormund) Torkildsen "Vasbo"? had 2 wives, Olene Gulleksdatter and Bodil Kristine Gunlefsdatter. There are 6 children. Who belongs to whom? According to the marriage for Bodil 11 Nov 1855, Torkild and Torgir were not hers. Not sure where to put the others. |
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Ole Tollefson Hovland Vasbo b. May 1859 Norway
