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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 09/02/2014 : 22:09:56
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They are "faddere" (witnesses/godparents):
Kjersti Johnsdatter, Questa, Margith Halvorsdatter, Kaasa, Halvor Halvorsen, Skougen, Tosten Olsen, Hougeland, Guro Hansdatter, Askildt.
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lornejohnson
Senior member
Canada
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Posted - 12/03/2014 : 22:24:40
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Still looking for information on Gunnild Nilsdat or Neilsdat ?? - Kleven under Askilt born 1795 having left Norway circa 1855 for America to join son Halvor Johannesen (Johnson) and family. I don't find any information about her and younger son Anders leaving Norway. Any recommendations of where I should be looking? I've searched the Bo Parish records where Halvor and family are registered as leaving for America. What is the Parish "diary records"? Is this a place where emigration may be recorded? What is the difference between "official" parish records vs. "copy" parish records? I'm willing to pour over the records but I'm at a loss of where to continue looking. Any suggestions ?
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 12/03/2014 : 22:35:37
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Was she an owner of land? If she sold her property before she left the sale could indicate an approximate time of her departure.
What about the son Andrew? Are there any biographical things about him in US that tell when he came--did he become naturalized or take a homestead? |
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lornejohnson
Senior member
Canada
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Posted - 12/03/2014 : 23:34:53
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| Not likely a land owner as they were very poor people in America - son Halvor is listed as a soldier in Norway. Would I look under probate records for this? My goal is to find some information about them leaving Norway to confirm that Gunnild is actually Cornelia. A death record of her in America would be helpful as well. |
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lornejohnson
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Canada
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Posted - 18/03/2014 : 21:41:33
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| Further to my search for more information on Gunnild Nilsdat .....I think I may have found the death announcement for her husband Johannes Halvorsen in the "Sauherad in Sauherad" parish records of 1874 page 213 line 35. Can you tell me what the other words are in front of his name ...... or refer to ......also any other information on that line please. Would it not be rather odd that Gunnild would go to Amerika circa 1855 and her husband Johannes stayed behind in Norway to live for another 19 years ?? The birth year and location match Johannes information ....I suppose that doesn't necessarily mean it is the same person ?? Any thoughts on this ? |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 18/03/2014 : 22:47:33
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This Johannes Halvorsen died as a widower. Very commonname and no confirmation that this is "your" Johannes Halvorsen who I believe were living in Bø.
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lornejohnson
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Canada
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Posted - 19/03/2014 : 00:32:07
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| Thanks Einar - "my" Johanes Halvorsen was actually born in Sauherad so I thought it might make sense that he be buried there. I guess there's no indication of his wife's name attached to his death information ? Another question...if his wife was a land owner and sold before departing for America, where would I look for the information about a land disposition ? Thanks again for your help. |
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jkmarler
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USA
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lornejohnson
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Canada
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Posted - 22/03/2014 : 22:07:21
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| It appears I would have to know the farm address to search here ? ....which I don't have. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 22/03/2014 : 22:40:19
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| The name of the farm is what you need... what farm were they on when each of the children were born or when they married--start with that. |
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lornejohnson
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Canada
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Posted - 24/03/2014 : 18:12:20
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| Could you translate what I'm reading here please: Digitised Real Estate Register for Bo Askilt sondre (Bnr 12) II 1a ......could be Johannes Halvorsen Kleven ??? what does this refer to ?? |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 24/03/2014 : 18:26:56
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| Post the page link and I'm sure that someone on forum could help... |
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lornejohnson
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 24/03/2014 : 19:33:54
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Originally posted by lornejohnson
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-tl20070312241003.jpg
My ability to help here is limited. My Norwegian English dictionary didn't have "Fæstedelse" which is whatever Johannes Halvorson and his wife got on 7 Sept 1813 from Hans Hansen (husmans place Kleven?). On the same day Knut Iversen and his wife also got a place. But totally looks like an index entry for volume Q, 169 in the "pantebog"
Bø also has dødsfallprotokol searchable at the Digitarkivet from 1836 and up, arranged chronologically. Dødsfallprotokol is a very basic probate type of record, most anyone will be included in it who has died. The entries usually include a short list of survivors who would be legatees if there ever were an estate to be distributed. Bø's don't appear to be indexed so you'll have to go year by year through them. The record keeper for these was the sheriff and so they might be independent from the pastor or clerk keeping the parish death register. For your guy Johannes, if you want to find if he died before Gunhild came to US start with the year counted 9 months before the birthdate of the last child and go forward in time until you find him.
http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/search/?forvaltning=&fylke=08&embete=&protokoll=&periode=&navn= |
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 24/03/2014 : 20:32:09
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| http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/55377/2/ Looks like Gunild Nilsdatr about three lines from the bottom on the left page. What is this telling me ? Is this a death record ? |
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Gunild Nilsdatterr Kleven under Askilt
