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lornejohnson
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 Posted - 24/03/2014 : 20:38:46
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| Sorry ...year 1837 4th line from the bottom left page Gunild Nilsdatr ? |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 24/03/2014 : 21:38:34
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Originally posted by lornejohnson
Sorry ...year 1837 4th line from the bottom left page Gunild Nilsdatr ?
I don't think you're out of 1836 yet.
The third Column head "Avdødes navn" means the deceased's name. Three lines up from bottom looks like Gunder Gundersen to me. So all the column heads are "Dato" meaning date (probably of the death), "Gaards --- Plassen" the farm name and place, the deceased's name and "Anmærkning" notes or remarks.
It looks as time goes on that additional columns of information are added, age, another date column actually labelled as date of death so it's possible if not probable in the early records the date recorded might be the date the information was recorded rather than date of death. |
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 25/03/2014 : 00:53:41
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| Not the it matters - I was actually on the next page from where you are reading the information .....flip to the next page to 1837, 4th from the bottom to Gunild Nilsdatr. Her youngest son Anders was born 1841 so this cannot be her. ....I'm through the years to 1868 and no sign of Johanes Halvorsen .?? |
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 25/03/2014 : 01:54:02
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| http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/55377/18/ Sept 20 1852 Johanes Halvorsen............could you please tell me what is written in the other columns about Johanes..........Thanks |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 25/03/2014 : 02:19:19
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Here is the link to the correct page, I think:
Source information: Telemark county, Bø lensmann, Dødsfallsprotokoll (SAKO/A-553/H/Ha/L0001), 1836-1889, oppb: Statsarkivet i Kongsberg.
Permanent page-link: http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/55377/17/
The date is actually Sept 30, the farm is Kaasa under Grivi his name is John Halvorsen and in the notes I can decipher only one word, "myndige" so whoever is named there is an adult.but what the other words are I cannot figure out.
The death and funeral record of this John Halvorsen is #62 name appears to be carried as "Joen" another spelling of John. His age is given as 77 and he is a farmer:
Source information: Telemark county, Bø, Parish register (official) nr. 8 (1849-1861), Death and burial records 1852, page 291.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1351&idx_id=1351&uid=ny&idx_side=-293
In the real estate ledgers on the right hand page a John Halvorsen, his wife and 1 child got a "fæsteddel" on 9 July 1802. Did your Johannes have a wife and child by 9 July 1802?
Source information: Protocol number: III 3, Place: Nedre Telemark sorenskriveri, Bø tinglag, Location: SAKO
Remarks: Bø III. Gnr. 39-64
Permanent imagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-tl20070312270957.jpg
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 25/03/2014 : 23:06:37
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| Seems this is not my Johanes Halvorsen. He was married in 1818 so had no children at such an early date. .....and in 1852 he would have been in his fifties, not his seventies (born circa 1793)..........The search continues ! |
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lornejohnson
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jkmarler
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Posted - 26/03/2014 : 23:51:21
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Originally posted by lornejohnson
http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/55377/57/........In the descriptive information on these pages (right hand column) am I reading the word "America" ....is it referring to relatives having gone to America?
Your link doesnot work! |
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lornejohnson
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 27/03/2014 : 01:44:29
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| If you use the above link and flip back one page please. The copy paste always seems to link one page ahead ?? |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 27/03/2014 : 05:32:25
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Originally posted by lornejohnson
If you use the above link and flip back one page please. The copy paste always seems to link one page ahead ??
That only happens on yours--never seen it on anyone else's posts....
On this page:
Permanent page-link: http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/55377/57/
There is a Gunhild Halvorsdatter, a poor person on Moland but her entry doesnot contain the word "Amerika". It's a bit unclear if the entry is saying she is 70 aar --70 years old or that she was born in 1870.
There are some entries which do mention Amerika for instance on huusmand Nils Gregersen, a couple of lines below Gunhild, his son Greger Nilsen is mentioned as moved to America.
Not sure if Gunhild's entry is what you were questioning or not.... |
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 27/03/2014 : 20:41:56
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| I was more interested in the fact that there is mention of surviving family members living in America. If I could find Johanes Halvorsen's death listed it may indicate other family members (Gunild Nilsdatr) having gone to America. |
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lornejohnson
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jkmarler
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Posted - 02/04/2014 : 23:10:31
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Originally posted by lornejohnson
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061127340496.jpg&siz=gigant Can I get a translation of the first two words that occur in front of the name Johannes Halvorsen on line #35 please ....and what does "Akerhaugen" refer to following the name ?......Thanks !
Enkemand = widower
Føderaads = retiree getting part of his living through an agreement with the incoming new owner,
Akerhaugen is a farm. |
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 03/04/2014 : 00:54:20
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| I've found a Gunild Nilsdatter and a "Anders" (presumably her child at 1.5 years old son) on the ship list Tecumseh #32 and #33 dated 1843 from Havre to New York. The ages are close to my Gunild and her son Anders that I've been searching for. An asterisk indicates the list was transcribed in part by a Elaine Nordie of Dassel Mn. Where would she have found this information ? Is it reasonable to assume that someone from Bo Telemark would sail from Havre ? Would there be parish immigration information about them in Havre ? |
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Gunild Nilsdatterr Kleven under Askilt
