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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 03/04/2014 : 01:54:59
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Which list did you find them on, onsite at Norwayheritage?
In Norwegian Immigrants to the United States, A Biographical Directory 1825-1850 Volume 1 1825-1843 by Gerhard Naeseth on pg 278, Gunnild is identified as the wife of Johannes Halvorsen Kleven b abt 1798. Johannes is buried at Jefferson Prairie on 27 Oct 1849. It also says "The passenger list appears to omit some of this family, incl. Niels b. 1835?; Ingeborg."
Anders is also listed b. abt 1841?
Sources for the entry are:
1850 Illinois Census (no county specified)
Long Prairie Lutheran Church parish registers |
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 03/04/2014 : 02:35:58
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I was searching the passenger lists at Norway Heritage under the last name only "Nilsdatter" .....several names came up. I knew that the youngest child Anders was born in 1841in Norway and they show up under the 1860 USA Census in Boone County, Illinois .....so that gave me a time reference of 1842 to 1860. Can you tell me how to access the book you refer to. Is it on-line? Thanks so very much for this ...it has been quite an exercise !
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jkmarler
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 04/04/2014 : 00:17:03
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This looks like it might be the migration records for Johannes Halvorsen family? All I can read here is the three children Ingeborg, Johannes and Ander ....the ages seem correct. Can you translate any of the other information?
page 376, items 9 and 10 , 1843, April 21
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051011050409.jpg&siz=gigant |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/04/2014 : 05:33:26
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| Yes, except Johannes Halvorsen is identified as Halvor Joh.--an apparent error in a busy year. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/04/2014 : 09:21:16
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This is what I read
#9 Ungk (bachelor) Niels Joh (Johannesen), Kleva
Niels was born July 16 1822, bapt record #46 - parents Johannes Halvorsen and Gunild Nilsdatter, Kleva under Askilt.
#10 Halvor Joh Kleva (should have been Johannes Halvorsen) og Hustrue (and wife)
Deres Børn (their children)
Ingeborg 10 Aar
Johannes 8 Aar
Andres (Anders) 1 3/4 Aar
Johannes Halvorsen and Gunild Nilsdatter were maried Nov 17 1818, #32.
Anders born Sept 10 1841, bapt. record #85 - parents Johannes Halvorsen and Gunild Nilsdatter, Kleva under Askilt in Bøe.
Johannes born Oct 55 1834, bapt record #124.
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eibache
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Posted - 04/04/2014 : 09:27:42
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Johannes Halvorsen and Gunild Nilsdatters first child was Halvor born Aug 10 1819, #47.
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eibache
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Posted - 04/04/2014 : 09:58:06
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Gunild Nielsdatter was born July 20 1794 and baptized July 27, #60.
Her parents were Niels Korsveyen and Sigri Tollevsdatter.
Sigri Tollevsdatter was a widow in 1801 - she was born approx 1760.
Widower Niels Andresen, Korsveyen and Sigri Tollevsdatter were married Dec 17 1793, #23 left page.
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lornejohnson
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jkmarler
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lornejohnson
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/04/2014 : 23:25:48
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Originally posted by lornejohnson
I have a Johannes as a son of Johannes Halvorsen and Gunild Nilsdatter Kleven born October 5, 1834. What is this ? Looks like Johannes of the same parentage different birthdate ?? Line #34
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051011061246.jpg&siz=gigant
The only Johannes I see is the son (looks like) of Erik Helgeson & ____ Gudbrandsd to me. And the year is 1829 not 1834. Too bad the writer had a messy pen that made lots of blots.
It appears possible that the parents are actually below Johannes' name and father maybe is Halvor but the rest I cannot figure out and so have to leave to others on forum. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 06/04/2014 23:33:41 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/04/2014 : 23:40:49
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I'm seeing Johannes on line 34; the name is broken onto two lines. Very hard to read.
#34
Johan-nes
--?-- March? 1829
Johannes Hal--?--sen og
Gunild? --?-- Kle-ven
--?--
5 April? 1829
--?--
lornejohnson, I can't read this well enough to help. Just as a point of information - and you may already know this - it was customary to name a later child after a child who had earlier died, so you will sometimes see the repetition of names of children born to the same couple.
Hope someone can decipher this difficult script. |
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 07/04/2014 : 04:40:38
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Thanks for your help on this. I wasn't aware of this tradition. Does the "X" in the margin have any significance - such as indicating a death?
I've been trying to find a birth announcement for Ingebor Johannesdatr. in the Boe Parish papers. All the other children are there. According to the migration announcement of April 1843 she was 10 years old at that time so should be born around 1833. I've searched forward and back 5 years from that date but find nothing. Any suggestions or help looking over these dates would be helpful. Some are recorded in old script so are hard to read. thanks ! |
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eibache
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Posted - 07/04/2014 : 09:24:50
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The baptism #34 says Johannes Halvorsen and Gunild Pedersdatter, Kleven under Søndre Askilt baptized April 5 in the church their son Johannes born March 2 1829.
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Gunild Nilsdatterr Kleven under Askilt
