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jkmarler
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 Posted - 21/02/2014 : 17:15:11
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Looking for some of the addresses mentioned in the Johnson / Johannsen family posts at genealogybank.com found a couple of mentions:
2222 Eads Street:
Times-Picayne Tuesday 27 March 1934 pg 14 damage to the home of Mrs. John Johannsen from a storm the article begins on page 1.
2222 Eads St
1984 finds mention of Zelda and Eugene Smith as residents, parents of Zona Smith
1720 Marigny Street
a Joseph Johnson was mentioned in this article:
Times Picayune, Friday 31 August 1934 pg 11, col 5-6
"Refusal to pay car fare is not breach of peace"
Joseph Johnson from 1720 Marigny Street was also the action figure in this article:
Times-Picayune, 25 Jan 1938, pg 3, col 8
"Pays fine of $50 for law practice without license"
In 1966 & 1967 the 4 bedroom house at 1720 Marigny was offered for sale for $8500, and in 1983 it was advertised as newly remodeled and for rent of $175/. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/02/2014 : 19:08:35
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Probably Martin Krauser in the 1880 Census. Seems to have been born in Louisiana not Texas as an earlier record showed.
1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Martin
Age: 21
Birth Year: abt 1859
Birthplace: Louisiana
Home in 1880: New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Adeline
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: France
Neighbors:
Occupation: Brewer
Household Members:
Name Age
Martin 21
Adeline 20
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JaneC
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Posted - 21/02/2014 : 21:02:30
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Theodore Johnson (possible younger brother to Jurgen/John) is in census 1870 and 1880 and 1900 with mother Caroline Krauser Johnson. In 1900 a daughter Rosa age 7 is with him and a son Joseph age 6.
BIRTH
11 August 1892
Rosa Viola Johnson, father Theodore [Johnson], mother Olivia Serpas (Olivia born ca 1877)
http://files.usgwarchives.net/la/orleans/vitals/births/index/1892biil.txt
BIRTH
01 Oct 1893
Joseph Johnson, father Theodore [Johnson], mother Olivia Serpas
http://files.usgwarchives.net/la/orleans/vitals/births/index/1893biil.txt
Olivia Serpas Johnson died 1896 in New Orleans (per New Orleans, Louisiana, Death Records Index)
Family tree on Ancestry.com (Michael Ritzmann tree) says Rosa grew up to marry Michael Frederick Ritzmann. Family tree says Theodore's parents are John Johnson and Caroline unknown. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 21/02/2014 : 22:00:00
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Originally posted by JaneC
Family tree on Ancestry.com says she grew up to marry Michael Frederick Ritzmann. Family tree says Theodore's parents are John Johnson and Caroline unknown.
What does the tree say about this John Johnson's origin?
Obituary of Manuel Raymond (White) Johnson published Times-Picayune Thurs. 10 Dec 1964, pg 6, col 5 survivors abstracted:
wife Betty Marie Johnston
brothers: Joe Johnson, Joseph Brossette, Wilfred Brossette, and the late Victor, Albert, and Francois Brossette
sisters: Mrs. Irene Haisch, Mrs. Rosie Ritzmann, Mrs. Adele Cuadrado, Mrs. Loretta Petitfils
he is characterized as "son of the late Odile Clavier and Theodore Johnson" aged 50 years, native of New Orleans.
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 21/02/2014 : 22:53:43
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children of Odile Victoria Clavie and Theodore Louis Brossette
Victor Theodore Brossette b 10/15/1884 d 1954 married Christina Elizabeth Dietz
Louis Albert Brossette b 02/17/1886
Marie Brossette b 04/06/1887
Edward Brossette b 09/24/1888
Margaret Loretta Brossette b 06/03/1890 - [married Ulysses Petitfils]
Joseph John Brossette b 07/15/1891
Paul Wilfred Brossette b 03/18/1895
John Francis Brossette b 11/26/1899
Adelaide Philomena Brosette, 09/23/1893 [married Frank Cuadrado]
a confusing Anthony birth 1895
Recap Theodore Johnson kids
Theodore Johnson's Children with Olivia Serpas
Rosa Viola - married Michael Frederick Ritzmann
Joseph Johnson - probably the Joseph Johnson living at 1720 Marigny
Theodore Johnson's Children with Odile Clavier?
parents? Irene Henretta Johnson b 28 Apr 1904 married Herman Haisch (her birth record not yet found)
parents? Manuel Raymond (White) Johnson b 1914 (birth record not yet found)
More about Loretta:
Loretta Brossette age 18 married Emilie Sugasti age 32 in 1908
next married Ulysses Petitfils, after 1920
Loretta Petitfils born 03 June 1890 died 01 Oct 1973, age 83, New Orleans.
1930 census in New Orleans w spouse Elysses and kids Annetta, Emile, Elysses, Jack, Paul, Peter
1940
New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana
Ulyss Petitifils 47 b 1893 LA, baker
Loretta Petitifils 49 b 1891 LA
Ulyss Petitifils 13
Jack Petitifils 12
Peter Petitifils 11
Paul Petitifils 11
Odile Petitifils 9
Anita Sugasti 20
Emile Sugasti 19
a Ulysses J Petitfils born 01 Sep 1926 d 11 Dec 1976 in New Orleans
a Jack B Petitfils born 07 Sep 1927 d 19 Dec 2005, Pearl River, St Tammany, LA
per census Peter and Paul are twins.
a Peter J Petitfils born 06 Feb 1929 d 23 Mar, 2001, St Bernard county, LA
a Paul J Petitfils born 06 Feb 1929 d 02 Dec 1989
1940
New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana
Frank Cuadrado 52 b 1888 Alabama
Adel Cuadrado 46 b abt 1894 Louisiana
Anthony Cuadrado 21
John Cuadrado 20
Helen Cuadrado 17
Vincent Cuadrado 14
Josehine Cuadrado 12
Rita Cuadrado 10
Dorothy Cuadrado 8
Mary Cuadrado 6
A descendant posted this: My great grandmother was Adel Brossette. She married my great grandfather, Frank Cuadrado."
http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.brossette/20/mb.ashx |
Edited by - JaneC on 22/02/2014 21:18:02 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/02/2014 : 23:09:20
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Theodore Johnson married twice.
Times Picayune, Saturday 26 July 1947, pg 2, col 7
"JOHNSON-- of 2320 N. Galvez street on Friday, July 25, 1947 at 7 o'clock p.m., THEODORE L. JOHNSON, husband of the late Olivia Serpas by first marriage, by second Odile Clavier, father of Mrs. M. Ritzmann, Mrs. Irene Haisch, Manuel and Joseph Johnson, Mrs. U. Petitfis, Mrs. F. Coudrado, Victor, Joseph, Francis, Albert and Wilfred Prossete; brother of August and John Johnson, Mrs. Mamie Cavallero, and the late George Brinkman; also survived by 35 grandchildren, 3 great grandchildren; aged 76 years, a native of New Orleans.
Relatives and friends of the family, also employees of the Air Reduction Sales Co., and Dixie Machine and Welding Co., New Orleans Fire Department and American Sugar Refinery, are invited to attend the funeral on Sunday, July 27, 1947, at 2 o'clock p.m. from the mortuary of Jacob Schoen and Son, 527 Elysian Fields avenue.
Interment in St. Roch cemetery."
Now John Johannsen is John Johnson.... |
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JaneC
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Posted - 21/02/2014 : 23:11:48
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Theodore's obit: "....brother of August [Johnson] and John Johnson, Mrs. Mamie Cavallero, and the late George Brinkman;"
Mamie is presumably Mary...I'll look
1880 US census - as posted previously by lyndal40:
New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana
John Johnson 48 b abt 1832 Denmark, parents b Denmark, carpenter
Caroline Johnson 37
George Johnson 14 [ = birth name George Brinkman; census taker indexed him under stepfather's name]
John Johnson 11 [ likely = Jurgen/John Johannsen]
Theodore Johnson 9 [= Theodore L Johnson]
Mary Johnson 6 months [ = Mamie Cavallero? Caballero]
+ August born after this census [circa 1882]
Obit posted by jkmarler on page 6
BRINKMANN--Of 1819 Marigny street on Monday, December 13, 1937 at 1:45 o'clock a.m.
GEORGE E. BRINKMANN, beloved husband of Daisy Rosalie Patton, brother of Theo. Johnson and John Johansen, aged 72 years, a native of New Orleans, La. ....services at St. Anne's Episcopal Church, Esplanace avenue. Burial in St. Roch cemetery |
Edited by - JaneC on 22/02/2014 00:29:20 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/02/2014 : 23:32:34
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Ritzmann Family Tree on Ancestry.com
John Johnson
Birth 1832 in Denmark
Death 1880
Record sited is the 1880 US Census that I posted several pages back.
Wife is
Caroline (UNK)
Birth 1843 in Bremen, Germany
Death
Sources sited are the 1800 US Census and the 1900 US Census, also posted several pages back.
Children listed are George , 1866, John 1869, Theodore 1871, and Mary 1879.
Carries the family of Theodore forward.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 21/02/2014 : 23:33:12
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Since August is living and counted in 1947 but not in 1959 here's a possible:
Johnson, August K
Death date: 1953-10-10
Age: 71 years
Sex: M
Obituary citation(s):
States, 1953-10-10, Pg. 2 col. 2
Times-Picayune, 1953-10-11, Pg. 18 col. 5
The obit from Times-Picayune:
"JOHNSON-- of 359 Hayne boulevard, on Saturday, October 10, 1953 at 7:30 o'clock a.m. AUGUST K. JOHNSON, beloved husband of Sophie Pinto; brother of Johnny Johannsen and the late Theodore Johnson and Mrs. Mamie Caballera; also survived by nieces and nephews, aged 71 years; a native of New Orleans, La.
Relatives and friends of the family are invited to attend the funeral, Sunday, October 11, 1953, at 3:30 p.m. from the mortuary of Jacob Schoen and Sons, 527 Elysian Fields avenue. Religious services at Bethany Evangelical and Reformed church, Franklin avenue and Miro street.
Interment in Greenwood cemetery."
It would be very nice to know what the L in Theodore L. Johnson and the K in August K Johnson stand for. Findagrave gives the K as for Karl:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=johnson&GSfn=august&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=20&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=89848246&df=all&
August Karl Johnson WWI draft registration birthdate 19 Dec 1880.:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KZ8N-BD1
August Karl Johnson's WWII draft registration. He is listed with blond hair and blue eyes and birthdate 19 Dec 1881, mailing address 1720 Marigny and Mrs. Joseph Caballero is the person who will always know where August is:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X5MC-FYM
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/02/2014 : 23:55:46
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quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40
Ritzmann Family Tree on Ancestry.com
John Johnson
Birth 1832 in Denmark
Death 1880
Record sited is the 1880 US Census that I posted several pages back.
The death would have had to have been after the census in 1880 but there is another son named August born abt 1882 so perhaps they have supposed him to die in 1880. |
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JaneC
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JaneC
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Posted - 22/02/2014 : 00:09:00
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> "The death would have had to have been after the census in 1880 but there is another son named August born abt 1882 so perhaps they have supposed him to die in 1880." <
Some people will enter a death as "After" such and such. Maybe here it is after 1880, since that is the last time John Johnson was spotted. The program doesn't pick up the word after in the summary.
2012 Obit for Eve, daughter of the late Herman H. Haisch and Irene Johnson Haisch:
http://www.memorialsolutions.com/sitemaker/sites/HONAKE1/obit.cgi?user=1697_EWaller50
1940
New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana
2436 Music
Hermon H Haisch 38
Irene Haisch 35 born abt 1905 LA, <---daughter of Theodore Johnson, niece to John Johannsen
Herman Haisch Junior 16
Raymond Haisch 14
Theodore Haisch 11
Eve Haisch 9
Robert Haisch 7 |
Edited by - JaneC on 22/02/2014 00:33:01 |
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jkmarler
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JaneC
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Posted - 22/02/2014 : 00:32:41
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well looky here...
MARRIAGE
15 Oct 1902
Mary Johannsen age 22 [born abt 1880] <----------------------------------------------
to
Joseph Caballero age 24 [born abt 1878]
Vol. 24, page 331, 1902 Orleans Parish Grooms' Marriage Index
http://files.usgwarchives.net/la/orleans/vitals/marriages/index/groom/1902mgaf.txt
1940
New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana
Address: 1720 Marigny Street
Joseph D Caballero 62 born about 1878 Louisiana, tinsmith
Mary J Caballero 60, born about 1880 Louisiana <---sister of Theodore Johnson and John Johannsen b 1868
Residence 1935: Same House
1940
New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana
Address: 1715 Marigny Street
Lawrence Caballero 35, born abt 1905, married, electrical worker, owns his house
Find-a-Grave:
Joseph Caballero (1878 - 1962) age 84
St Roch Cemetery, New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana
Plot: St Roch Cem 1, Sq D1, St.Boniface Walk, T042.
Mary Caballero (1880-1949) age 69 <---------------sister of John Johannssen b 1868
St Roch Cemetery
Plot: St Roch Cem 1, Sq D1, St.Boniface Walk, T042.
Lawrence Caballero (1904 - Feb 1984) <---------nephew of John Johannssen b 1868
St Roch Cemetery #1
New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana
Plot: St Roch Cem 1, Sq D1, St.Boniface Walk, T042.
with Vera A Moore Caballero (1916 - 1992)
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Caballero&GSfn=Lawrence&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=110419140&df=all&
I guess we just needed a little faith that those Johnsons in the 1870 and 1880 census would be able to transform themselves into Johannsens! No wonder it was hard for you, Bethany, to find them. 
Sure lookin' like the parents of "your" Jurgen/John Johannsen are John (or Johannes) Johnson (or Johanessen) and Caroline Krauser. His siblings would be half-brother George Brinkman, Theodore Johnson, Mary Johannsen (Caballero), and August Johnson (or Johannsen), as found in the census records and obituaries posted.
DEATH as indexed on Ancestry.com
New Orleans, Louisiana, Death Records Index
NAME: John Johannsen <-------------------------  Bethany, can you order this death record?
Year: 1882
and can you order this marriage record? (Caroline married John under her married name from her first marriage)
Caroline Brinkman married John Johnson 29 February 1868 in New Orleans LA (Justice of the Peace Marriage Index, call number VEE 678, page 172)
http://nutrias.org/~nopl/inv/jpmarrindex/johnsonh_johnsonm.htm |
Edited by - JaneC on 22/02/2014 04:15:19 |
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Johannsen - male born 1830 Norway died 1882 Louisi
