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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 18/07/2014 : 16:14:57
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quote: Possibly the Christopher Anderson family in Douglas county, Minnesota in 1880:
Nice work Jackie, I notice that Clara was born in Minnesota. Maybe the missing child.
1880 United States Federal Census Name: Clara Anderson Age: 6 Birth Year: abt 1874 Birthplace: Minnesota Home in 1880: La Grand, Douglas, Minnesota Race: White Gender: Female Relation to Head of House: Daughter Marital Status: Single Father's Name: Christoffer Anderson Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's name: Carri Anderson Mother's Birthplace: Norway: Household Members: Name Age Christoffer Anderson 56 Carri Anderson 53 Christian Anderson 17 Clara Anderson 6 |
Edited by - AntonH on 18/07/2014 16:15:35 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 18/07/2014 : 16:30:19
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Double kudos today Jackie, here is how the transcriber at Ancestry.com lists Karen Andersdatter.
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 Name: Hans A?? Gender: Female Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1827 Date of Arrival: 8 Aug 1870 Vessel: Kong Sverre Search Ship Database: Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec Port of Departure: Christiania, Norway Roll: C-4526
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 18/07/2014 : 18:01:35
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Trying to fill in some blanks here. Here are possible female B Anderson marriages in Polk county between 1875 and 1900:
POLK E/322 08/20/1892 ROHOLT, HANS C ANDERSON, BERTHA POLK D/514 12/26/1890 LINDEN, GUST ANDERSON, BERTINE POLK F/49 11/14/1893 ANDERSON, BETSEY ANDERSON, BETSEY POLK C/96 01/29/1887 LARSON, PETER ANDERSON, BETSEY CHRISTINA
The 1893 marriage is going to be tough to figure out... |
Edited by - jkmarler on 18/07/2014 18:02:35 |
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aethos
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Posted - 18/07/2014 : 19:34:08
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quote: Originally posted by jkmarler
Is this the death you have for Christopher? In this record his parents' names are (of course) Andres and mother Betsy Hauser...
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FD83-4V2
The son Christ A Bly death in 1940 in Bemidji, Minnesota: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FD7Z-XRK
The local paper is the Bemidji Pioneer and is still in publication today. Some issues of the Pioneer are mounted at the Chronicling America website.
quote: Originally posted by jkmarler
Possibly the Christopher Anderson family in Douglas county, Minnesota in 1880:
http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=13&filnamn=MINN1880&gardpostnr=17594&merk=17594#ovre
Ok, you've done it! The missing link! I don't know how that didn't turn up in any of my other searches of the 1880 census but that is them and our missing great aunt! This is exciting. Also I see they put Karen's name as "Carn". So do you think she went by Carrie? Everyone referred to her as Karen in my father's lifetime.
Now the top record is correct and now I can see the findagrave.com website has his date written wrong! It's hard to read on the headstone for the untrained eye but I see the 1902 now. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Anderson&GSfn=Christ&GSby=1822&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=all&GSst=25&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=35141835&df=all&
I know my father looked in old records of the Pioneer but there wasn't much there. During the war the family moved to Washington from Lessor Township/Foston and after the war when a few of them came back they settled in Bemidji. Christopher and Karen died before WWI.
Jackie, you are my new favorite person. Thank you!
quote: Originally posted by jkmarler
Trying to fill in some blanks here. Here are possible female B Anderson marriages in Polk county between 1875 and 1900:
POLK E/322 08/20/1892 ROHOLT, HANS C ANDERSON, BERTHA POLK D/514 12/26/1890 LINDEN, GUST ANDERSON, BERTINE POLK F/49 11/14/1893 ANDERSON, BETSEY ANDERSON, BETSEY POLK C/96 01/29/1887 LARSON, PETER ANDERSON, BETSEY CHRISTINA
The 1893 marriage is going to be tough to figure out...
Ah so the harder nut indeed. Tracking their other siblings. It might be possible to track when they died since we know they died before 1900? Was Betsey a common alternative for Bertha? |
Edited by - aethos on 18/07/2014 19:40:41 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 18/07/2014 : 19:53:12
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Transforming first names is an inscrutable process. So it was Christian's children who moved to Washington and back to Bemidji or...? |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 18/07/2014 : 20:00:23
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The headstone for Christoffer is written in Norwegian:
Christoffer Anderson født 16 Marts 1822 døde 30 okt. 1902
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aethos
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Posted - 18/07/2014 : 20:36:03
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That's correct. I'll give you what I know about the progression.
Andrew: Sometime after 1880 he married and went to Montana. This is hearsay. He must have come back to Minnesota for a while. Then from 1911-1915 he went to Canada where he and his wife had another child. They went from Canada back into Montana through Idaho in 1915. Their family stayed in Montana with a few moving to California eventually.
Christ: He passed away in 1940. The family had moved to Bemidji sometime around 1930. The family packed up mom (Marie) after his death and all 10 brothers and sisters and they moved to Everett where there was work. Marie died in Everett just after the war in a terrible car accident. Her and Ruby were struck by a drunk driver. Ruby lost three inches off her leg and Marie lost her life. Ole packed up with his wife and son (my father) and they moved back to Bemidji.
Clara: This is the first time we ever knew of her. My father was born in the 30s and never knew he had a Great Aunt. Pehraps she had died already? Hopefully I'll find something more on her because if she had kids we'd love to know that family. They'd possibly have some family left here in Minnesota. |
Edited by - aethos on 18/07/2014 20:37:59 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 18/07/2014 : 21:53:37
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This is a piece of information that doesn't advance the search very much but I'll post anyway. From the Baptism / Confirmation ELCA database at Archives.com:
Christian Anderson s/o Christoffer Anderson, Karin Anderson confirmed 30 May 1880, age 17, born Norway (no further description of where) his confirmation grade: daarlige; his entry is #5 on page 68 The church is named as one of these congregations: Farwell, Trysil, West Lake, Johnna, Trinity Lutheran. The geographic location for the church is given as: Farwell, Douglas, Brooten in Minnesota |
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aethos
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Posted - 18/07/2014 : 21:58:17
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Christopher was buried at Trinity Lutheran in Polk, County. However it was built during his time there so I'm guessing there may have been a Trinity Lutheran when they landed in Douglas and when they built the one in Lessor Township, they named it the same? It's part of the story at least. My father knew they were in Douglas County at one time and that's when Andrew started talking about going to Montana but again it was all hearsay to him so this ties it together well. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 18/07/2014 : 22:11:44
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Here is the information about a Christopher Anderson Homestead in Polk county Minnesota at glorecords.blm.gov site:
Accession Nr: MN0520__.039 Document Type: State Volume Patent State: Minnesota Issue Date: 2/5/1891 Cancelled: No Names On Document Miscellaneous Information PatenteeANDERSON, CHRISTOPHER Land Office: Crookston US Reservations: No Mineral Reservations: No Tribe: --- Militia: --- State In Favor Of: --- Authority: May 20, 1862: Homestead EntryOriginal (12 Stat. 392) Military Rank: --- General Remarks: --- Document Numbers Survey Information Document Nr: 6131 Total Acres: 160.00 Misc. Doc. Nr: 9733 Survey Date: --- BLM Serial Nr: MN NO S/N Geographic Name: --- Indian Allot. Nr: --- Metes/Bounds: No Coal Entry. Nr: --- Land Descriptions Map State Meridian Twp - Rng Aliquots Section Survey # County MN 5th PM 149N - 041W E½NW¼ 22 Polk MN 5th PM 149N - 041W W½NE¼ 22 Polk
Since he took an original homestead there may be information in the packet at least indicating where he filed his declaration of intention and possibly other family information including who he might be responsible for by count (wife and ___ children) etc. Files have gotten spendy $50/each. I see my cut and paste missed the other parcel that made up his 160 acres. corrected. Are there any other Christopher Andersons in Polk who might be at least 21 in 1891 who this could be? |
Edited by - jkmarler on 18/07/2014 22:14:42 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 18/07/2014 : 22:19:26
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At least keep an open mind about this possible Andrew from the 1880 census: Andrew Anderson m 21 stage driver N N N 489 Alexandria Douglas Minnesota |
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aethos
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Posted - 18/07/2014 : 23:37:31
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Oh you just had to throw a land grant at me. ;) Ok... I'm game. Google maps obviously has no idea what W½NE 5TH PM No 149 N 41 W 22 is so lets see what google search can tell me!
And it told me http://www.mngeo.state.mn.us/glo/Origin.htm
This will be fun. |
Edited by - aethos on 18/07/2014 23:39:30 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/07/2014 : 01:19:07
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There is a mapping feature at glorecords.blm.gov Input Christopher Anderson limited to Minnesota and you'll get a list of a dozen or more. Click on the one from Polk and mark the boxes by the land description and it will make a map for you. |
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aethos
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Posted - 19/07/2014 : 01:19:40
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Oh this is a gem! After a bit of education I figured out how to read the survey maps, pulled up google maps, found the homestead and VOILA! He was buried on his land. The homestead is clearly visible at 47.714123, -95.891544.
No seriously... the church yard where we found his grave (Trinity Free Lutheran Church) was built on his original homestead in 1897! Looks like he must have given the land to their church which was looking to build. Or sold it to them. or something. No idea yet but you stumbled onto a fascinating piece of family history!
So seriously cool. |
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aethos
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Posted - 19/07/2014 : 01:26:03
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lol I just saw your map note. Oh boy. Well I took the long way but the result is still seriously cool. |
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