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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 19/07/2014 : 08:26:28
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Perhaps they seperated, reunited and then were seperated by death?
Interesting also the Caren / Carin Anderson in Alexandria is also not there in 1900.... |
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aethos
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Posted - 19/07/2014 : 09:04:25
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It's possible but I don't know why she'd say they'd been there for 25 years. I can't find a death record or burial record for her so that makes it difficult as well.
I have to admit though, I never thought we'd get this far. A year ago we didn't even know about Christopher and Karen. My dad never knew them and with the family losing so many belongings it seemed unlikely we'd ever know. You and the rest of the team have really overdelivered here... thank you! |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/07/2014 : 14:55:28
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| She was, at least, consistent. 25 years in 1895, 35 years in 1905 which does put her coming to Minnesota in 1870... |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/07/2014 : 15:11:45
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Originally posted by aethos
Christopher was buried at Trinity Lutheran in Polk, County. However it was built during his time there so I'm guessing there may have been a Trinity Lutheran when they landed in Douglas and when they built the one in Lessor Township, they named it the same? It's part of the story at least. My father knew they were in Douglas County at one time and that's when Andrew started talking about going to Montana but again it was all hearsay to him so this ties it together well.
According to the history about the church at usgenweb Polk county Minnesota page, the congregation actually formed in 1884 and met at member's homes and didn't have a church structure until 1897. But it's still most likely the confirmation occurred on 30 May 1880 at congregation in Douglas county since the family is there in 1880 census (probably June.)
A little further info abstracted from The Centennial History of the Thirteen Towns, says that the first building of Trinity congregation was the log house the Swedish Lutheran church across the road used. Trinity purchased it for $50 and used it for 5 years and then built the other church building. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 21/07/2014 02:52:15 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 19/07/2014 : 22:15:31
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Re the parents of Karen Andersdatter, Here is a marriage record for them.
Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926 about Anders Mathisen
Name: Anders Mathisen
Gender: Male
Age: 20
Birth Date: 1806
Marriage Date: 28 des 1826 (28 Dec 1826)
Marriage Place: Vinger, Hedmark, Norway
Spouse: Kari Andersdr
FHL Film Number: 124481
Reference ID: 830
Also see left page second entry.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9134&idx_id=9134&uid=ny&idx_side=-264 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/07/2014 : 22:46:05
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A possible baptism record for Christoffer Anderssen. Father matches marriage record for him and birh year.
Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 about Christopher Andersen
Name: Christopher Andersen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 12 mar 1826
Baptism Date: 9 apr 1826
Baptism Place: Sor Odal,Hedmark,Norway
Father: Anders Pedersen
Mother: Berte Pedersdr
FHL Film Number: 124378
And see 2nd entry right hand page
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9145&idx_id=9145&uid=ny&idx_side=-36 |
Edited by - AntonH on 19/07/2014 22:51:27 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/07/2014 : 23:04:12
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Possibly the Anders Mathisen and Kari Andersdatter famly in 1865 Norwegian Census. Note the son named Karelius in this family also.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/07/2014 : 23:34:52
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And maybe the baptism record for Anders Mathisen,
Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 about Anders Mathisen
Name: Anders Mathisen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 3 jun 1805
Baptism Place: Eidskogen, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Mathis Andersen
Mother: Berthe Olsdr
FHL Film Number: 124280
And from Vinger/Eidskogen in Digitalarkivet look on the left page about two thirds down for Norwegian version of June 3 a little hard to read but findable.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9136&idx_id=9136&uid=ny&idx_side=-126 |
Edited by - AntonH on 19/07/2014 23:35:32 |
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AntonH
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/07/2014 : 00:17:24
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We are looking for Christoffer Andersen born March 16. 1822 in Vinger/Kongsvinger or Akershus.
Two sons changed lastname to Bly.
Perhaps of no importance, Bly in Norwegian is Lead.
Norwegian farms; Blystad, Blybakken, Blyseth, Blylaget, none in Kongsvinger parish, Hedmark county or Akershus County.
The closest in 1865 was Blystad in Vang, Hedmark County.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/07/2014 : 03:56:29
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Marriage record for Mathis Andersen and Berthe Olsdatter.
Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926 about Berthe Olsdr
Name: Berthe Olsdr
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 8 sep 1799
Marriage Place: Eidskogen,Hedmark,Norway
Spouse: Mathis Andersen
FHL Film Number: 124280
And see left page for Sept 8.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9136&idx_id=9136&uid=ny&idx_side=-172
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aethos
Medium member
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Posted - 20/07/2014 : 21:22:51
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I hadn't gotten far with Anders Mathisen because his marriage record to Kari Andersdatter doesn't list parents names and there is more than one Anders Mathisen. Here is another:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N4J7-ZY5
The birthdate I have for him suggests 1806 (from marriage record) but rounding I know that could be 1805 as well. Not sure how to sort these two out.
Here's their marriage record:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N719-X92 |
Edited by - aethos on 20/07/2014 21:23:58 |
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aethos
Medium member
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Posted - 20/07/2014 : 21:25:23
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quote:
Originally posted by Kċarto
Perhaps of no importance, Bly in Norwegian is Lead.
Probably of no importance but still interesting!
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Possibly the Anders Mathisen and Kari Andersdatter famly in 1865 Norwegian Census. Note the son named Karelius in this family also.
Yup. That's the family we identified earlier. Karelius is listed as "Torveig" in the emigration and ship records although Torveig is a girls name. also I can't find any record of Karelius or Torveig in the US. I know he must have died before 1900 because of the 1900 census. She says 4 of her 7 children are deceased.
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Originally posted by lyndal40
And maybe Mathis Andersen and wife Berthe Olsdatter with one daughter Kari in the 1801 Norwegian Census. Way at the bottom of the page.
The birth year I have for Kari is about 1807. |
Edited by - aethos on 20/07/2014 21:44:04 |
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aethos
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aethos
Medium member
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Posted - 20/07/2014 : 22:27:07
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Regarding Karen in Douglas County, I found this death record:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FD9C-FJD
Karen (Anderson) Ingebretsdatter. It's such an unlikely combination to see her with Christian Anderson with both her and Christian being the right age but either it's not her or we've chased the wrong ghost? |
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Who burns a census
