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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 20/07/2014 :  23:38:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cemeteries of Minnesota, Polk County, Volume 11 compiled by the Red River Valley Genealogical Society published submitted information about the burials at Trinity Lutheran pages 31-36. The source for these names and dates and birthplaces was a Mr. Alfred Hegland. It is not known how he obtained the information if through personal research or from memory or exactly how. The names are arranged in the order of the burials / death dates. There are no burials in this record before 27 Nov 1903. Anyway, these are the names of interest:

Bly, Paul B.
b 1876 Lessor Twp sic
d. Oct 4, 1906 at Berkeley California

Anderson, Caren
b. 1837 Kongsvinger, Nor. sic
d. Nov 3, 1906 Lessor Twp

There are no other Bly names and there are 3 other Anderson burials but none with a first name that matches the family in question.

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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/07/2014 :  02:55:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by aethos

Here are two records that might help though. I had figured to search for any other siblings to try to sort it out. What I found was:
Anders Mathisen Nystellet https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N7R8-PYL
Anders Mathisen Nijstelle https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N7RD-N96

....Perhaps a helpful clue to sort out which Anders Mathisen it is?



I think we have here dueling dialects. You say To-mot-o and I say To-mate-to. But I'll let the Norwegian language folks respond to resolve this.
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aethos
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Posted - 21/07/2014 :  02:56:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wait who? The Red River Valley Genealogical Society? Is this on Google books or something? :P I *DID* just find the history of the Hurlbut family on google books which is good for one of my lines of searching. :)

So remember when I said my father was going to try to visit the graveyard in Lessor? It was to answer this very question! We just knew Karen/Caren had to be buried there with Christopher. She's not on the list at findagrave.com though. Awesome find. And that means we don't have to wait for my fafther to make the 250 mile trip into the great north woods.

Paul Bly is Andrew Bly's son. We don't know the whole story yet and are working with Andrew's kin to sort some of that out. :) This is good to know though that they brought him back after his death. Part of the story that is unique in that this was a time when there were not highways. The only way to do that would have been by train I would think and I can't imagine how that coordination would have worked. Probably by wire/telegram I would think. Such a different world.
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aethos
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Posted - 21/07/2014 :  03:09:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh wait... Paul Bly born 1876 in Lessor.... I don't think that's right. Or at least it doesn't fit in with what I have yet. I'll have to dig on that a bit.

Paul A Bly, 1903-1906: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FDMP-Z9S

Son of Andrew and Helen.

Edited by - aethos on 21/07/2014 03:18:43
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 21/07/2014 :  03:18:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Usually RRVGS walks the actual cemetery recording the folks as they lay as the information appears on the stone. But for Trinity they relied on Mr. Hegland's work and didn't walk it. It's possible that Mr. Hegland worked from church registers or went through the "old" death record books at the courthouse or something of that nature. In his list Paul and Caren are next to each other because they each were the others most consecutive in time.

From the findagrave picture Christoffer's stone looks weathered and lichen grown and sometimes folks miss carvings on the back and sides of a stone. Maybe that's what happened.
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aethos
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Posted - 21/07/2014 :  03:20:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You're probably right in one circumstance or another. I think Paul's has got to be Andrew's son and the birth date and the death location are wrong. I just updated my post above as you were posting this.
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/07/2014 :  17:07:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wonder if anyone can read the farm name after Anders Pedersen in the second record right hand page for son Christopher. I see that the U of M has the Bygdebok for this area and I could perhaps find some information on this person there.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9145&idx_id=9145&uid=ny&idx_side=-36
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Kåarto
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Norway
5861 Posts

Posted - 24/07/2014 :  09:47:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

I wonder if anyone can read the farm name after Anders Pedersen in the second record right hand page for son Christopher. I see that the U of M has the Bygdebok for this area and I could perhaps find some information on this person there.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9145&idx_id=9145&uid=ny&idx_side=-36



The farname is Storefulu.

Kåre
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 24/07/2014 :  14:53:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually they lived on a sub farm under Store Fulu - Fulu Store called Rødning/Rønningen in 1835 when a dau. Anne was christened Sept. 20.

Kåre
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AntonH
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Posted - 24/07/2014 :  16:16:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Kåre, I have copied the Table of Contents (Inhold) for Sør Odal Bind IV. It shows six farms with the name Rønningen as sub farms (plasser) but under the main farm named Skårer. I will take a look at that section later this week.
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AntonH
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Posted - 24/07/2014 :  23:57:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well no Store Fulu in volumes 2, 3 and 4 of Sør Odal bydgebøker. And Rønningen under Skårer was a dead end as well. I will ask UND Library to look at the other 5 volumes to see is Store Fulu is covered there.
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Kåarto
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Norway
5861 Posts

Posted - 25/07/2014 :  00:22:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Store Fulu is in local area Knudserud, Kjaberg and Odals Værk in Strøm subparish, Sør Odal.

Kåre
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AntonH
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Posted - 25/07/2014 :  00:26:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From the Eidskog Bygdebok, Volume 5

Farm is Tukunenga

Ved folktellinga i 1865 stod Tukunenga oppført under Forkerud og det var husmannen Kristoffer Andersen som bodde der.

Brukere
Kristoffer Andersen f. Strøm, g.m. Karen Andersdatter f. Strøm Vinger ca. 1833.

Barn

Andreas f. før vielsen u. Østbøl 16-10 1852
Berthea f. ca. 1854
Andreas f. Forkerundenga 5-3 1857
Karelius f. Forkerudlia 14-2 1860
Kristian f. Forkerudenga 26-7 1863
Mentz f. Tukun 13-1 1867

Snekker, Kristoffer Andersen Forkerud, 48 år, utvangdret til New York. Usikkert om resten familien fulgte med.
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 25/07/2014 :  00:42:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tukuengen 1865

Most likely emigrated via Oslo.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 25/07/2014 00:47:10
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Kåarto
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Norway
5861 Posts

Posted - 25/07/2014 :  00:53:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Since Karen was from Vinger/Kongsvinger they probably married there.

Good night from Norway.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 25/07/2014 00:54:19
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