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AntonH
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 Posted - 03/01/2015 : 05:58:56
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Yes very strange. Here they are arriving in Baltimore.
NAME: Pauline Johansen
ARRIVAL DATE: 10 Sep 1880
AGE: 24
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1856
GENDER: Female
PORT OF DEPARTURE: Bremen, Germany
SHIP NAME: Leipzig
PORT OF ARRIVAL: Baltimore, Maryland |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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tkoller
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 03/01/2015 : 13:57:01
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Was the marriage record of Alice to Samuel Swanson posted?
SWANSON, SAMUEL married JOHNSON, ALICE P
Alice P Johnson married
Samuel Swanson
17 March 1900
Cook County, Illinois
305941
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 03/01/2015 : 14:31:16
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Nice finding Alice P Michelson, Anton.
Marriage
29 Jun 1921
Lake county, Indiana
Alice Pauline Johnsen
Walter H Michelson
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OBIT (with thanks to Find a Grave)
Chicago Tribune (Illinois) January 22, 1936
Walter Michelson, late of 3004 N. Keating-av., beloved husband of Alice (nee Johnson), fond father of Mrs. Vera Busse, brother of Mrs. Ida Torrison, Mrs. Anna Benson, and Herbert. Funeral from chapel, 3337-30 W. North-av., Thursday, Jan. 23, at 1:45 p.m. Interment Mount Olive. Member of Logan Square lodge, No. 891, A. F. & A. M.; Logan Square chapter, No. 238, R. A. M., and Humboldt Park Commandery, K. T., No. 70.
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tkoller
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Posted - 03/01/2015 : 18:37:10
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That's wight. It seems like a real nut. I tried to seek the same Sin the national census of 1900. She was not there. The national census give information of birthplace.
I will now write to the archive and ask for the paper about his Jennie's father's assets. Hope to find some leads there.
I will be at the hospital for a week or to so I have time to read all of this topic and see if I have overlooked something or there is something untried.
The reply from the archive will take some time. I will come back as soon as I find something. Until then many thanks for the effort everybody has had to solve the case.
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tkoller
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 03/01/2015 : 21:36:57
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Hi TOK, hope all goes well. Get well soon. :D
To explain, reason to follow various descendants is we can't find the person we most want, Jenny. Tracing descendants might help lead to her; as one example, living descendants of the extended family might have news of her.
As previously posted, BIRTH of
Jens Peter Sofus Johnansen
born 21 August 1877
Trefoldighet, Oslo
Parents Peter Oluf Johanssen and Sofie Caroline Larsen
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US World War I Draft Registration (Ancestry.com)
Date of registration: 12 September 1918
James Peter Johnsen
Age 41
Born 21 August 1877
Native born: No
Naturalized citizen by father's naturalization
Address: 832 Monticello, Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Milkman
Wife: Marie Johnsen
US World War II Draft Registration (Ancestry.com)
Registration circa 1942
James Peter Johnson
Birth: 21 Aug 1877 in Oslo, Norway
Residence: 3500 N. Lavergne, Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Age: 64
Person who will always know your address: Helen Johnson, 5809 W Ohio, Chicago
Employer: Reiter Dairy Products
Signed: James P. Johnson
1940 US Census
Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Address: 832 N Monticello Avenue
James Johnson 63 b abt 1877 Norway, naturalized, distributor, milk business
Marie Johnson 62 b abt 1878 Norway
Helen Johnson 28 b abt 1912 Illinois
1930
Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Address: 832 N Monticello Ave
James P Johnsen 52 b Norway, milkman
May Johnsen 52 b Norway
Helen M Johnsen 18 b Illinois
1920
Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Address: 832 Monticello Avenue
James P Johnsen 42 b abt 1878 Norway, to USA 1891, milk driver
May Johnsen 41 b Norway to USA 1881
Florence Johnsen 17 daughter b Illinois
Helen Johnsen 8 daughter b Illinois
1910
Chicago, Cook, Illinois
James P Johnson 32 [37] b Norway, inspector, dairy company
Marie Johnson 32 b Norway
Florence Johnson 7
James Johnson 1 [1 4/12]
1900 MARRIAGE
01 September 1900 in Chicago
James P Johnson age 23 and Marie C Strant age 22
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Death of a child of James Johnsen and Marie Strand in 1911 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 03/01/2015 : 23:28:08
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Back to the Datz famly. I think still our best lead, thanks to Jackie. Here is the family in 1930 US Census with two additional children.
NAME: Edward Datz
GENDER: Male
BIRTH YEAR: abt 1881
BIRTHPLACE: Illinois
RACE: White
HOME IN 1930: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
MAP OF HOME: View Map
MARITAL STATUS: Married
RELATION TO HEAD OF HOUSE: Head
SPOUSE'S NAME: Sophie Datz
FATHER'S BIRTHPLACE: Germany
MOTHER'S BIRTHPLACE: Germany
OCCUPATION:
EDUCATION:
MILITARY SERVICE:
RENT/HOME VALUE:
AGE AT FIRST MARRIAGE:
PARENTS' BIRTHPLACE:
View image
NEIGHBORS: View others on page
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
Edward Datz 49
Sophie Datz 44
Ferdinand Datz 22
Edward Datz 9
Alice Datz 4
[4 9/12]
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 03/01/2015 : 23:31:19
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Here is the birth record for second son Edward.
NAME: Edward Datz
BIRTH DATE: 31 Jul 1920
BIRTH PLACE: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
GENDER: Male
FATHER NAME: Edward Datz
FATHER'S AGE: 40
MOTHER NAME: Sophia Johnson
MOTHER'S AGE: 35
FHL FILM NUMBER: 1309408 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2015 : 23:40:39
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Still alive in 1940 and still living in Chicago. From 1940 US Census.
NAME: Sophie Dotz
RESPONDENT: Yes
AGE: 54
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1886
GENDER: Female
RACE: White
BIRTHPLACE: Illinois
MARITAL STATUS: Married
RELATION TO HEAD OF HOUSE: Wife
HOME IN 1940: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
MAP OF HOME IN 1940: View Map
STREET: Mozart Street
INFERRED RESIDENCE IN 1935: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
RESIDENCE IN 1935: Same House
RESIDENT ON FARM IN 1935: No
SHEET NUMBER: 9B
ATTENDED SCHOOL OR COLLEGE: No
HIGHEST GRADE COMPLETED: Elementary school, 6th grade
WEEKS WORKED IN 1939: 0
INCOME: 0
INCOME OTHER SOURCES: No
NEIGHBORS: View others on page
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
Edvard Dotz 59
Sophie Dotz 54
Edward Dotz 19
Alice Dotz 14
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/01/2015 : 15:20:05
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I haven't found more on Sophie Datz.
Husband of Alice Pauline Johnson - Walter H Michelson - had a daughter Vera Busse (named in his obit).
Find a Grave memorial for Vera Helena Michelson Busse says she married Norman Clarence Busse (1903-1994). FAG says Vera was born 24 Jan 1900 in Chicago; died 11 Jan 1951 in Knoxville, Knox, Tennessee.
1940 US census
Grant Township, Lake, Illinois
Norman Busse 37
Vera Busse 40
Norman Busse 12
Ronald Busse 7
US Social Security Death Index lists a
Norman C Busse b 16 Aug 1927, d 03 Feb 2006
Last residence Linden, Perry, Tennessee
Soc sec # issued Illinois
Obviously it's a long shot whether descendants have any stories about Peter Olaf Johnson or Jenny Jorstad. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/01/2015 : 17:27:39
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A long shot, but it may be the only way that Tarald ever ties together the threads of this story. Good job on finding more descendants of the possible relatives of Jenny Amalie. Here is some more on the Datz side.
Birth record of Edward Datz
NAME: Edward Datz
BIRTH DATE: 31 Jul 1920
BIRTH PLACE: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
GENDER: Male
FATHER NAME: Edward Datz
FATHER'S AGE: 40
MOTHER NAME: Sophia Johnson
MOTHER'S AGE: 35
FHL FILM NUMBER: 1309408
And probably his death record.
NAME: Edward Datz
SSN: 358-10-6014
LAST RESIDENCE:
34695 Safety Harbor, Pinellas, Florida, USA
BORN: 31 Jul 1920
DIED: 13 Apr 2001
STATE (YEAR) SSN ISSUED: Illinois (Before 1951) |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/01/2015 : 17:50:48
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Okay, great. That leads to obit in St. Petersburg Times 16 April 2001 for Edward Datz, age 80, of Safety Harbor, born in Chicago, to Safety Harbor area in 1985, survived by wife Margaret and sister Alice Markus of Clearwater and five nieces and nephews.
A Margaret K Datz born 1919 died 2002 in Safety Harbor, Florida.
Sophie Johnson Datz would obviously be Alice's mother. Sophie is a strong candidate to be Jenny's daughter, but not the only candidate. If we can't establish Sophie parentage another way, I suppose the Markus family could be asked.
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tkoller
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Jenny Amalie Jansen
