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ROBJE
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Canada
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 Posted - 19/01/2016 : 02:26:17
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I wish I could use profanity here, because you guys are unYOU-KNOW-WHATbelievable.
I'll be back after sifting through your wealth of info. (May take me years....)
And what good I can do here later is a mystery. Your wizardry at this stuff is uncanny. I can't be of any support in that area.
You guys have zip and facts; I have but curiosity and empathy.
But if you've given me an existentialist crisis, you've more than made up for it with your assistance.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 19/01/2016 : 09:00:25
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And I still haven't a translation of the census entry ' laegdslem'.
. For alle som leser norsk:
Lægd, husgang, fra omkring år 1200 en form for omsorg for uforsørgede og fattige ved at de gikk fra gård til gård med kort tids opphold hvert sted (omgangslægd). En person som ble forsørget ved lægd ble kalt lægdslem. I Frostatingsloven var det en bestemmelse om husgang, og etter at Magnus Lagabøte hadde gitt en felles lov for hele riket (1276), ble fattigvesenet ordnet slik at gårdene i herredet etter tur skulle la de fattige få hus og mat. Denne ordningen er siden kalt lægd.
Fremveksten av pengehusholdningen førte til at lægdsystemet ble lite hensiktsmessig, og fattigkassene begynte å tilby kontant betaling til dem som ville ta til seg fattige. Det nye systemet som gradvis fortrengte lægdsordningen, ble kalt borttinging, og baserte seg på utsetting av fattige til private etter anbudsprinsipp. Ordningen med lægd ble formelt opphevet i år 1900 da den nye fattigloven ble vedtatt.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 19/01/2016 : 09:03:49
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I cannot find my late mother's awesome recipe for 'fiske-gratteng'.
Oppskrift.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 19/01/2016 : 15:48:45
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Great-Grandaddy Kristian Andersen Flugstad (born 1872) had many children with Thora Thorsdatter (1871; Sel) just before and after their moving to Oslo
Margit Kristine, b. Dec 11 1896, #1062,
Torbjørn, b. May 15 1898,
Ragnhild Elfrida, b. July 25 1900, #252,
Ester Gunhilde, b. March 11 1903, #107. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 19/01/2016 : 16:48:26
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Here is a possible in the emigrants list:
Thea Moen Baldersgt. 15 II 1895 14.06.1919 New York Emigranter over Kristiania 1871-1930, redigert utgave
Some further information on Thea Moen found by Jackie in the emmigation records. Here is her arrival record.
She lsits her mother as Marie Moen, Ringebu and her final destination as Chicago.
Thea Moon
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Thea Moon
Arrival Date: 24 Jun 1919
Birth Date: abt 1896
Birth Location: Nrw
Birth Location Other: ringebu
Age: 23
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Kristiania, Norway
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Bergensfjord
And probably her emmigration record.
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000001150195
Here is a possible baptism record for this Thea. Her baptism is in Ringebu, her mother is named Marie and her father has a moen connection. As is sometimes the case Ancestry.com has given her the fahters last name and not Palusdatter.
Thea Olsen Aasormoen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Thea Olsen Aasormoen
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 20 okt 1895 (20 Oct 1895)
Baptism Place: Ringebu, Oppland, Norway
Father: Paul Olsen Aasormoen
Mother: Marie Thorsdatter
FHL Film Number: 1693974
Reference ID: item 2 b A8 p 80
See also number 33 in Digitalarkivet
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4073&idx_id=4073&uid=ny&idx_side=-86
Probably here in 1900,Norwegian Census called Thea Paalsdatter living with her family.
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01037084000981
And in the 1910 Census. Interesting that now the father uses the Aasermoen name.
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01036433001647
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
6495 Posts |
Posted - 19/01/2016 : 20:12:12
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When Margit Kristine was confirmated in 1911, the Flugstad family was living at Danevigveien 7, link.
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Edited by - eibache on 19/01/2016 20:15:04 |
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ROBJE
Medium member
Canada
98 Posts |
Posted - 20/01/2016 : 20:29:07
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I told you I wouldn't go away. But I've needed squinting and hours to sift for the nuggets in the lode of data you provided me. (Then I needed a long lie-down). But now - like good Canadian bacon - I'm back. And I know my quest is greedy, considering most folk come here looking for an ancestor or two whilst I search dozens, but please indulge me a shortish, boring explanation:
I wrote early on that my mother was tainted with a bastard child when she married Polish Dad. That was, of course, me. Only I wasn't told until I was 36 years old. I tracked down and met the fellow who'd sired me, and suffice it to say that I became absolutely convinced by the power of genes. It was almost a relief.
For many reasons, family and ancestors were simply not discussed in our family as I grew up, lest the secrets burst out.
Then an old, unknown photo album popped up a few years ago, long after Mum died. In it were 65 photos of old dead people (though they seem quite alive in the pictures). Now, usually one leafs through such an album and scoffs at everyone's stern sepia looks and funny clothes before stuffing it back in a closet. But there were little notes - damn it - in what looked like my mother's handwriting - double damn it - which labelled everyone as Onkel This, Tante That from Sel, and So-and-so Who Moved to America.
I felt compelled to put them all in their places. (I rather enjoy doing that.)
Now - thanks to some hard slogging of my own, but hugely to you all - I have placed names and relationships to 50 of those photos. I've come to feel I knew that I know them all a bit. (After a while, it's almost like an episode of The Walking Dead, no?) The others are untagged, or marked as friends of cousins, so to heck with them.
The point is that this is no academic exercise for me. It's deeply personal in light of my firm, unshakeable, personally-galvanized belief in the stubborn human genome.
The full quilt of my Norwegian ancestry now has only a few tangled threads left.
May I begin with one Simen Thorsden b1866 in Vaagaa to Thore Simensen and Marit Johansdatter? He is there in the 1875 census, but gone by 1900. (The incomplete 1885 one somehow misses the whole clan; must have been a heck of a picnic.) I can find no record of his emigration on the American side (I don't get too excited about matching family trees, as that has burned me in the past with this gang. Two families with similar names had children with very similar names in uncreative Vaagaa of those years).
Yet I know for certain that he went to America, because he looks very proud in a photo staged in North Lacrosse, WI, wherein he is circa 25 years old.
Any ideas, Cyber-Sleuths?
- Robert
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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ROBJE
Medium member
Canada
98 Posts |
Posted - 20/01/2016 : 22:37:08
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| That's him...that's the last sign I could find of my phantom Simen. |
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jkmarler
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 20/01/2016 : 22:53:19
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Simen Thoresens baptismal record is #18, he was born June 13 1866 and his parents was Thore Simensen and Marit Johnsdatter, Moen.
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ROBJE
Medium member
Canada
98 Posts |
Posted - 20/01/2016 : 22:55:01
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I'm bewildered (again), jk. I was on family search this morning and couldn't find the right Simon.
You make Sherlock Holmes seem like a dumpster diver.
Thank you (again).
Just a couple more knots in my threads, then: the toughies.
With your expertise, we traced Julie Andersdatter b1870 (in Faaberg to Gina Christiansdatter and the rascal Anders Peter Johansen b1852) to a NYC arrival in 1910, with destination listed as Grand Rapids, Michigan. Then her trail goes frigid.
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ROBJE
Medium member
Canada
98 Posts |
Posted - 20/01/2016 : 23:08:23
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Super, elbache. That confirms mine.
And my DNA whispers to me, jk (shouts, really) that you found our boy.
You guys. Sheesh. I hope the maple syrup season is good.
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ROBJE
Medium member
Canada
98 Posts |
Posted - 21/01/2016 : 01:56:14
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| Not only does your electric research bewilder me...now I cannot even access the last postings that are apparently here. What am I doing wrong here? |
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ROBJE
Medium member
Canada
98 Posts |
Posted - 21/01/2016 : 02:02:47
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| .....and paranoia sets in (cue spooky music)......have I been blocked for wordiness or overt sentimentalism......(cue desperate scream)....... |
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Greeting, Countrymen
