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ROBJE
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 Posted - 27/01/2016 : 17:29:44
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And I'm guessing a 'jernbanearbeider' of 1870's Norway would necessarily indicate someone who would move around much, laying tracks and such.
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ROBJE
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Posted - 27/01/2016 : 18:20:05
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Howzabout this one? Johan Gustav Alfred born 10.03.1878 to Anders Petter Johanson (dob 25.03.1850 Sverige), jernbanearbeider. Baptism 14.04.1878 Eigersund. That's surely a candidate. Might be the same fellow as line 5 of your link to railroad workers, from Daisland but born 1849.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 27/01/2016 : 20:16:09
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JaneC
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Kåarto
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Posted - 27/01/2016 : 20:54:45
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Originally posted by ROBJE
And I'm guessing a 'jernbanearbeider' of 1870's Norway would necessarily indicate someone who would move around much, laying tracks and such.
Jernbanearbeider is a railroad worker
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 27/01/2016 : 20:56:31
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Here are the parishes in Alvsborg county (as found in the indexing Wiki at familysearch.org)
Parishes
#9726;Alboga
#9726;Ale-Skövde
#9726;Algutstorp
#9726;Alingsås
#9726;Ambjörnarp
#9726;Angered
#9726;Asklanda
#9726;Berghem
#9726;Bergstena
#9726;Bergum
#9726;Billingsfors
#9726;Bjurbäck
#9726;Björketorp
#9726;Blidsberg
#9726;Bogesund
#9726;Bollebygd
#9726;Bolstad
#9726;Borgstena
#9726;Borås Caroli
#9726;Borås Gustaf Adolf
#9726;Bottnaryd
#9726;Bredared
#9726;Broddarp
#9726;Brunn
#9726;Brålanda
#9726;Bråttensby
#9726;Brämhult
#9726;Brätte
#9726;Bäcke
#9726;Bälinge
#9726;Böne
#9726;Börstig
#9726;Dals-Ed
#9726;Dalskog
#9726;Dalstorp
#9726;Dalum
#9726;Dannike
#9726;Ed
#9726;Edsleskog
#9726;Eggvena
#9726;Eriksberg
#9726;Erikstad
#9726;Erska
#9726;Finnekumla
#9726;Fivlered
#9726;Fors
#9726;Fotskäl
#9726;Fristad
#9726;Fritsla
#9726;Frändefors
#9726;Fröskog
#9726;Fullestad
#9726;Fuxerna
#9726;Fänneslunda
#9726;Färgelanda
#9726;Fölene
#9726;Gamla Lödöse
#9726;Gestad
#9726;Gesäter
#9726;Gingri
#9726;Grimmared
#9726;Grinstad
#9726;Grovare
#9726;Grude
#9726;Grönahög
#9726;Gullered
#9726;Gunnarsjö
#9726;Gunnarsnäs
#9726;Gällby
#9726;Gällstad
#9726;Gärdhem
#9726;Hajom
#9726;Hedared
#9726;Hemsjö
#9726;Herrljunga
#9726;Hesselskog
#9726;Hillared
#9726;Hol
#9726;Holm
#9726;Holsljunga
#9726;Horla
#9726;Horred
#9726;Hov
#9726;Hudene
#9726;Hulared
#9726;Humla
#9726;Hyssna
#9726;Håbol
#9726;Håcksvik
#9726;Hålanda
#9726;Hällestad
#9726;Hällstad
#9726;Härna
#9726;Högsäter
#9726;Hössna
#9726;Istorp
#9726;Jonsered
#9726;Jällby
#9726;Järbo
#9726;Järn
#9726;Kalv
#9726;Karl Gustav
#9726;Kattunga
#9726;Kilanda
#9726;Kinna
#9726;Kinnarumma
#9726;Knätte
#9726;Kullings-Skövde
#9726;Kungsäter
#9726;Kvinnestad
#9726;Källunga
#9726;Kärråkra
#9726;Kölaby
#9726;Kölingared
#9726;Lagmansered
#9726;Landa
#9726;Laxarby
#9726;Lena
#9726;Lerdal
#9726;Lerum
#9726;Liared
#9726;Lilla Edet
#9726;Ljungsarp
#9726;Ljur
#9726;Ljushult
#9726;Långared
#9726;Länghem
#9726;Lödöse
#9726;Magra
#9726;Marbäck
#9726;Mellerud
#9726;Mjäldrunga
#9726;Mjöbäck
#9726;Mo
#9726;Molla
#9726;Mossebo
#9726;Murum
#9726;Månstad
#9726;Mårdaklev
#9726;Möne
#9726;Naglum
#9726;Nittorp
#9726;Norra Björke
#9726;Norra Säm
#9726;Norra Åsarp
#9726;Norska Skogsbygden
#9726;Norunga
#9726;Nya Lödöse
#9726;Nårunga
#9726;Näs
#9726;Nödinge
#9726;Nössemark
#9726;Od
#9726;Ornunga
#9726;Redslared
#9726;Remmene
#9726;Revesjö
#9726;Roasjö
#9726;Rommele
#9726;Rännelanda
#9726;Råggärd
#9726;Rångedala
#9726;Rödene
#9726;Rölanda
#9726;Sandhult
#9726;Sankt Peder
#9726;Seglora
#9726;Sexdrega
#9726;Siene
#9726;Sjötofta
#9726;Skallsjö
#9726;Skedeskamma
#9726;Skephult
#9726;Skepplanda
#9726;Skållerud
#9726;Skölvene
#9726;Smula
#9726;Solberga
#9726;Starrkärr
#9726;Steneby
#9726;Stora Lundby
#9726;Stora Mellby
#9726;Strängsered
#9726;Sundals-Ryr
#9726;Surteby-Kattunga
#9726;Svenljunga
#9726;Sätila
#9726;Södra Björke
#9726;Södra Härene
#9726;Södra Säm
#9726;Södra Ving
#9726;Södra Vånga
#9726;Södra-Ryr
#9726;Södra Åsarp
#9726;Tarsled
#9726;Timmele
#9726;Tisselskog
#9726;Toarp
#9726;Torestorp
#9726;Torp
#9726;Torpa
#9726;Torrskog
#9726;Tostared
#9726;Tranemo
#9726;Trollhättan
#9726;Tumberg
#9726;Tunge
#9726;Tvärred
#9726;Tydje
#9726;Tämta
#9726;Tärby
#9726;Töftedal
#9726;Töllsjö
#9726;Tösse
#9726;Ullasjö
#9726;Ulricehamn
#9726;Upphärad
#9726;Valbo-Ryr
#9726;Varnum
#9726;Vassända-Naglum
#9726;Vesene
#9726;Vist
#9726;Vårvik
#9726;Väne-Ryr
#9726;Väne-Åsaka
#9726;Vänersborg
#9726;Vänersnäs
#9726;Vänga
#9726;Västra Tunhem
#9726;Åmål (Lands-)
#9726;Åmål (Stads-)
#9726;Ånimskog
#9726;Åsbräcka
#9726;Älekulla
#9726;Älvsered
#9726;Ärtemark
#9726;Äspered
#9726;Ödeborg
#9726;Ödenäs
#9726;Ödskölt
#9726;Ölsremma
#9726;Ör
#9726;Öra
#9726;Örby
#9726;Örsås
#9726;Östad
#9726;Östra Frölunda
#9726;Öxabäck
#9726;Öxnevalla
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JaneC
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ROBJE
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Posted - 27/01/2016 : 21:48:50
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Gazooks (an old way of saying 'Golly Gee', which is an old way of saying today's 'OMG')!
You've lost me a mite here. I take it y'all are suggesting little Johan took his family stead as a surname, but are we then thinking this may well be the issue of my Double-Great GrandPappy Anders?
The history may fit. My Norwegian choo-choo train reading indicates the Christiania to Drammen line was completed in 1872 (Great-Grandad Christian's birth year), but geography fails me here. Was sleepy Faaberg near to the workings on that?
And then the Egersund to Stavanger railway opened n 1878, and the Oestfold to Halden in 1879, roundabout the time of Johan Gustav's appearance.
Does possible work on either of those lines qualify the railroad worker Anders Petter for being there? |
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JaneC
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Posted - 27/01/2016 : 21:55:19
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Good idea to sort out the railroad work. But we haven't got a match on birth place in Sweden. Sometimes the same place appears in two records but stated a different way (Sel, Gudbrandsdalen), but that doesn't seem to be the case, after poking at the candidate Anders a bit.
That said, Bråttensby is pretty close to Boraas...
I don't think Johan Gustv Alfred's father Anders Peter Johanson can be ruled out yet.
Re. Sirevaag surname, well that 1910 census shows a Johan born 10.03.1878 in Ogna sign, Eigersund. Confirmation record gives his birth place as Sirevaag. A full transcription of the birth record you found is not posted. Churchbook can be checked, marriage checked, etc. to confirm it is same Johan.
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JaneC
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ROBJE
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Posted - 27/01/2016 : 22:27:38
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Cool, Jane C. Love it. Has anybody besides me and five or six dozen others ever told you that you guys are amazing?
I wish I could make out the list of Fadder (godparents, I take it, or witnesses). It stands to some small reason that Anders' railway cronies would sometimes make up that band, and if we have any matches between Johan Gustav's attendees and the 1870-1872 births in Faaberg and Modum (by Gina and Kristine), that'd be very strong.
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JaneC
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Posted - 27/01/2016 : 22:32:22
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Great idea re godparents. Also the co-workers in 1900. Also the godparents at births of the other children by Ingeborg.
The 1900 census with Ingeborg and children says he's working at Heskestad:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01037259000541
Bråttensby is very tiny I think. I wonder if Boraas could be named as being a larger place nearby. Swedish records should reveal the story... |
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ROBJE
Medium member
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Posted - 27/01/2016 : 22:49:52
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I'll get on it, but right now my children (Anders' - whoever he is - great-great-great grandkids) are doing such important Internetting as exchanging selfies and finding cute kitten videos, taking much of my bandwidth with them.
But it stands to reason there was more issue of Anders. The infernal photo album that has driven me to this happy madness includes one very large picture of a moustachioed fellow (circa 28 years old), with the simple note : 'En half-bror av far's' (a half-brother of Dad's - i.e. Kristian Andersen b1872). I always assumed that meant U.S bound Otto b1871 (by Kristine), but the boys grew up together, so you think he'd merit a name or - at the very least - a singular 'Dad's half-brother'. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 27/01/2016 : 23:11:50
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We can forget Dalsland. That was birth place of an Anders Peter Johanson as found in the 1875 census. BUT this must be our candidate in 1875:
Anders Peter Johanson
born 1851 in Bråtensby, Sweden
living in Ogna in Eigersund
occupation Jernbanearbejder
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01052242004072
Dalsland does not come into it. This recognition (albeit slow to dawn) strengthens the candidate, father of Johan Gustav Alfred born 1878.
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ROBJE
Medium member
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Posted - 27/01/2016 : 23:29:52
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Hmmm.
The kiddies have put down IPads and picked up knives and forks. I've a minute.
Long shot thought: didn't jkmarler post some pages ago that Julie Andersen b1870 of Anders and Gina arrived NYC 1910 heading to the home of Gust...(illegible) in Grand Rapids, Michigan?
Could we find our Johan GUSTAV having emigrated circa 1902, and then inviting a half-sister to America? That'd put a beautiful bow to the whole thing.
(I know, I know....I'm freeloading......) |
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